The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches

For those who are too young to remember, a casual/sports steel watch with a prestigious horological name just didn’t exist until about 35 years ago. But the 70s were not only the age of bellbottoms, flower power, experimental music and drugs, but for all WIS the arrival of the luxury sports watch filling the horologically famished sportsters (or those wanting to look as good on the slopes in Gstaad or on their yacht in Monte-Carlo as with a bespoke suit) with joy and gratitude. Its in 1977 that Vacheron Constantin launched its first official sports watch, the sleek chic 222 evolving into the Overseas via the 333 and Phidias. 2009 sees the arrival of a viciously cool new version of the Overseas in steel/titanium on (finally) a strap.

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1930-1977

During this era we can’t really talk about sports watches from Vacheron Constantin but the brand did produce steel watches with a rather non conventional look which today could be considered as sporty. The first being an extremely rare model from 1933 with a screwed back and bezel for water resistance. The question remains if this piece inspired the 222 and the Overseas, but a certain family resemblance cannot be denied. 

 

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In 1975 Vacheron Constantin took a step in the direction of a sports/leisure model with the introduction of the reference 2215 or 42001 (reference numbers changed along the way), its originality residing in the fact that it was of the lineage of the prestigious Chronometre Royal models but this time in a steel or gold rectangular case and integrated matching bracelet. This model was produced for a very short time and in very low numbers and was certainly a first trial before the launch of, in my opinion, the coolest leisure watch of the 70s: ladies and gentlemen - the 222. 

 

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2215 or 42001




1977-1996

Vacheron Constantin had been toying with the idea of a sporty luxury watch for some time but it was in 1977 that the brand officially launched a sleek, cool masculine watch that would rapidly become an icon for the brand and later the inspirator of the Overseas. The 222 was launched in celebration of Vacheron Constantin’s – you guessed it – 222nd anniversary. 



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Contrary to popular belief it is not Gerald Genta but young design maverick Jorg Hysek who is responsible for the 222’s disruptive design.

Documentation from the time states “Vacheron Constantin has introduced a functional, exclusive model to commemorate its own age. This code name masks a heart of gold: a calibre 1121 movement, driven by its rotor in 21k gold, an extra thin self winding design with shock protection. Born from the heart of the matter, noblest steel or purest gold, the 222 is entirely crafted by hand. Exclusive in form and function, it is designed for those who confront realities of today”. The said “realities of today” most probably being the difficulty of pronouncing Caipiriñha correctly while sunbathing on Copacabana beach with some gorgeous Giselle Bundchen look alikes in skimpy bikinis near…but I’m getting off topic… The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches

The 222 was produced in 3 variations, steel, gold/steel and all gold and in 2 case sizes (38mm and 34mm in quartz). Its case was somewhat tonneau shaped with a clever one piece construction opened by a screwed in porthole type fluted bezel giving it a 120m water resistance. The 222 was available only with an integrated bracelet of the same metal as the case. 

 

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mono bloc case bezzel dial

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From a purely aesthetical point of view it seems that Hysek got inspiration of the serrated bezel from the ref 4709 of 1951. The case furthermore included a protective antimagnetic screen, a rather unusual feature for the period. 

 

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ref 4709


An extremely rare rectangular version directly inspired by the Chronometre Royal from 1975 also existed even though I have never seen one and find less appealing. 


 

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Movement wise the 222 housed what many consider as one of the best and most reliable thin automatic calibres: cal 1120 developed by Jaeger LeCoultre as the caliber 920 in 1967 for exclusive joint use by Audemars Piguet and Vacheron Constantin (JLC never used this movement itself). Interestingly the Big Three as Vacheron Constantin, Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe are known used the same ebauche for their leisure/sports models launched in the 70s (respectively the Royal Oak, 222 and Nautilus). Patek switching to its cal 335 sometime in the mid 80s). 

 

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cal 1120



When it comes to watches it is said that if the model is a success in Italy then it will be a success elsewhere and the 222 became an instant hit with the design savvy Italian cognoscenti and still today is considered as a design classic among the Italian and European collectors.

Unfortunately the 222 (made in about 500 pieces during its 7 year career) was rapidly discontinued and replaced in 1984 by a more…how should I put it...80s looking timepiece which will certainly not go down in the annals of successful designs (but then what can we expect from a decade having given us fuchsia leggings, padded shoulders and Pia Zadora?): the 333 (seems that little energy was wasted in finding the name as well). An octagonal case shape with integrated bracelet (quite similar to that of the 222) existing in either steel, gold or steel/gold. Furthermore the sporty and disruptive design of the 222 was eased out with the 333 for a more urban look. The quartz version housed the caliber 1012 and the automatic version the cal 1124. The 333 was made in less than 550 pieces for the lady’s model and less than 650 for the men’s. 

 

The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches

The 333 then evolved in to the Phidias in 1989, existing in white or yellow gold or in steel/gold with an integrated bracelet. Its round case and bezel gave the Phidias a much more classical look breaking the link to the sportier look of the 222 and 333. The Phidias existed in different variations such as a time only with date using a Piguet based cal 1130, a chronograph using calibre 1136 and a world time with calibre 1180. An extremely original Chronometre Royal version housing the manual wind cal 1126 was also available making it the second and last sports related Chronometre Royal model. This latest piece was an update of the original Phidias model with a larger case size, crown protectors and a guilloche dial. 

 

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However the short lived 333 and Phidias gave way in 1996 to a real Vacheron Constantin sports watch, a direct evolution of the 222 and what has become over time a true icon for the brand: The Overseas. 


1996-2009

“With time the Overseas has become symbolic of Vacheron Constantin, but I don’t define it as a sports watch, but rather a casual / leisure watch. A sports watch is made for sports, the Overseas of course can be worn during sport activities but it is a discreet model which can be worn during week ends, leisure periods and fit for every day use” says brand CEO Charly Torres.

Around end of 1994 it was decided to create a sports / chic watch directly getting its design cues from the 222 launched almost 20 years before: a tonneau shaped case with a round serrated bezel this time in the form of a broken Maltese cross. The design team was composed of Dino Modolo, independent designer in charge of many Vacheron Condtantin designs of the time and Vincent Kaufmann a young inhouse designer today heading the VC design team. First was launched the time only model housing cal 1310 based on GP calibre 3100 in a 37mm case (also a 35mm model as well as a lady’s 24mm model was also launched) including an extremely rare left hand version made in only 3 pieces, followed in 1999 by the chronograph housing the Piguet based automatic calibre 1137 based on the Piguet calibre 1185 specially modified to add a big date mechanism. “The success of the Overseas went beyond our expectations” says Christian Selmoni Marketing Product and Product Development Director. 
 

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The only issue with the 1st generation of the Overseas was the very tense bracelet which often caught the hairs on the arms. As requested by many collectors the design team at Vacheron Constantin started working on an evolution of the Overseas with the specification of creating a new bracelet having the advantage of not shaving the hairs off the arm! The new Overseas was a beefed up version of the original model with a more aggressive look with identifiable codes: the Maltese Cross bezel and bracelet as well as a Maltese cross inspired guilloche dial. The bracelet was a true work of craftsmanship and art by itself: a bracelet which integrated the brand’s symbolic Maltese cross with brushed and polished angles for the most impressive effect. The Overseas 2 was thus launched in 2004 and as Mr. Torres says, it has become symbolic of the brand.

The original Overseas models were muscled up: a time only and a chronograph both in 42mm cases. These models were no longer certified as chronometers but came with an antimagnetic protection. The reason for the abandon of the chronometer status is explained by Christian Selmoni “at the time we were already thinking of relaunching a Chronometre Royal and wanted to reserve the COSC certification only for this model”.

Furthermore Vacheron Constantin switched to the cal 1126 for the time only model.

Where the Overseas 1 was a bit too tame to my taste The Overeas 2 is a potent mix of design, muscle and elegance representing a perfect evolution of the 222 and Overseas 1. The only issue I have with the chronograph model is the 3 sub counters of different sizes which lacks equilibrium. 

 

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For the model’s 10th anniversary in 2006 Vacheron Constantin put the gear in overdrive by launching the chronograph in yellow gold with yellow gold bracelet and a new dual time model in steel, yellow gold and a gorgeous pink gold version (all in a 42mm case) with a scrumptious chocolate dial (limited to 250 pieces). This new model houses the automatic calibre 1222 with the second time zone situated at 6 o’clock with a day/night indicator. 

 

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Meanwhile, responding to the success of the new Overseas models a certain number of special requests for specific markets were answered.

A time only version in steel with rose gold bezel was made in 300 pieces for the men’s model and 200 for the lady’s version for Hong Kong in 2006. 
 

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The year after, not less than 4 special chronograph versions were created. The Japanese “Engine” in collaboration with car a magazine with the same name. This new model opened a new path for Vacheron Constantin as it used two materials never used by the brand before: titanium and carbon fiber. As usual in the case of the special Japanese pieces this model gave an indication of a future direction the design of the Overseas would be taking. 

 

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Engine Engine

To underline even more the car connection the chronograph hands on the watch mimic the indicators on a car's dashboard. The hands do not start at the habitual 12 position but rather at 7. Case is 42 mm in steel with titanium bezel and screwed in push pieces, limited to 50 pieces.

Don't ask me what I think of the "engine start" on the chrono pusher.....

The same year two steel chronographs also for the Japanese market were launched with a sportier grainy dial and blue or beige numerals made in 50 pieces each. Extremely sporty and a forbearer of the US special Overseas chronograph of 2008: grainy dial, orange/red numerals but with a huge first: a strap. Unfortunately only 100 were available and it rapidly sold out. 

 

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2007 Japan editions



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In 2008 a drop dead gorgeous rose gold chronograph with anthracite dial and for the first time with a dark brown rubber strap (also delivered with a crocodile strap) was launched, probably one of the nicest looking versions of the Overseas. Same year a dual time model (in either rose or white gold) with diamond studded bezel on rubber strap was launched, watch which would look fantastic on Posh Spice and her football playing husband David B’s wrists. Followed this year by rose gold versions (with strap) of the Dual Time and chronograph (with light dials). 
 

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on rubber strap on rose gold bracelet

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The main question Overseas aficionados are rightly asking is why a rubber strap on the gold version but not the steel model? To quote Bjork they will be “Violently Happy” to see this mid year’s surprise right in time for the summer. A gorgeous steel Overseas (either chronograph or time only-the latter being a bit too Ingenieuresque to my taste) with a titanium bezel and anthracite sunray pattern dial of the coolest monochromatic effect, delivered with a dark grey and a black rubber strap. The good news is that this is a regular production model. The next question I’m sure will be asked is “will the bracelet models be able to be fitted with a strap?” and the answer is yes, even better the brand is actually developing a whole new offer of straps. 

 

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Surprisingly even though Vacheron Constantin is mostly famous for its classical timepieces the Overseas and its elder cousin the 222 have gathered quite a following. It’s no surprise as they both share common design genetics such as a tonneau case, fluted bezel, chic yet deliciously aggressive.

As for the evolution of the Overseas? There are some interesting developments ahead but as Mr. Torres say “there will be an Overseas 3 but not until we can equip it with a manufacture movement”. Chances of seeing a tourbillon or minute repeating Overseas in funky metals is close to zero but Vacheron Constantin will continue offering variations which will appeal from the more classical to the more casual oriented of Vacheronistas who would like to look as good on the slopes of Gstaad or on their yacht in Monte- Carlo as with a bespoke suit. I personally would love to see the 222 reborn i

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A Masterpiece!
03/31/2009 - 14:17
Whoa! A true work of art, captivating, fascinating, enthralling... yet another superb article by The Great Alex! ...and the watch ain't that bad either... Seriously, I had been waiting a long time for this baby to come along, and I am happy to say that my high expectations have been exceeded! When I first saw the OS (version 1), I wasn't really attracted to the watch. Version 2 was much much better IMO, but still, I have never been a huge bracelet fan, so while I liked it, and wasn't in love with it... But since VC came out with the US LE and I saw it in the metal on Alex's wrist at SIHH 2008, my appreciation for this sport watch has increased tremendously. And funny thing, since I know it is available on a strap, I've started to like the bracelet more and more - go figure... This new OS Chrono model is BY FAR the best I've seen so far - Alex, you were right in saying that it is a killer watch!!! I love everything on it:  1) I really like the "monochrome" look of the watch, going all grey makes it very stealthy and uber cool (and makes me think, my EP QP might look quite cool as well with a grey strap...)  2) the sunray antracite dial looks amazing - a real killer!! Since I really like the guilloche work done on the normal OS (even though it is not engine-turned but stamped), I can't say it is a major improvment, but I still prefer this new dial... 3) the mix of the Ti and the SS is very nice, and makes the bezel stand out even more than when it was in polished SS. I really like how VC has integrated the (micro-blasted?) Ti, brushed SS and polished SS finishing... So I have to give the OS Chrono a 10/10, and make it offically my new favorite sports watch. Christian and Vincent, if you are reading, I say "Chapeau!!!!" I have to say that I'm nt a huge fan of the time only model, only because I do not like the arabic numerals - IMO the watch would have looked nice with only hour markers...  So the big dilemma for me will now be: do I keep saving my watch tokens to buy the simple day-time QdI palladium (sill no1 on my shopping list), or do I accelerate the buying of the next watch and get this one first?... One thing is for sure, they are both no1 and no2 on my list, and provided I manage to keep my job, I'll definitely get both of them.  So thank you again Alex for delivering the news in such a great fashion - to state the obvious, this is so much better than a simple press release with the usual ultra-retouched/ photoshopped pictures... 2 Question:  A) To confirm, if I buy this lovely, I should also be able to buy a bracelet if ever I want to? And would the operation to change the strap to bracelet be a quick one or would I need to change the end piece? B) What will be MSRP? (please VC be kind, the economy is not what it used to be) Cheers, and thanks again Alex!!! Francois
I knew you would like it:-) Yes you can put a bracelet if you want and
03/31/2009 - 18:31
MSRP is (excluding VAT) - euro 11000 for the chronograph - euro 6900 for the time only
Thanks for this... so a little bit cheaper than the bracelet version..
03/31/2009 - 20:42
...me like it a lot! Oh, and Tom, for the record, IMO this is the best steel OS... Of course, if I had the me financial firepower, I would go for the bling instead of the stealth
Francois...........
04/07/2009 - 13:41
Now you're talking!!!!! Tom
Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
03/31/2009 - 14:39
Dear Alex, A very nice article....thanks for the update on the availability of leather straps...I am looking forward to accessorizing my own Dual Time soon! Best regards JAMES
thanks James :-) (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:32
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03/31/2009 - 15:03
Is this the mystery watch (D-7/D-6)?
yes it is (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:36
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When i first saw the time only model...
03/31/2009 - 15:41
i also thought it was an Ingenieur. I fail to see the evolution, Alex...... thanks for the report.
To be more precise
03/31/2009 - 15:52
I fail to see the evolution since some time in the VC sports watch.
evolution not revolution mom gégé (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:43
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Very nice, a great new look and variety, but...
03/31/2009 - 16:00
I like the original Overseas the most.  I guess my tastes are old and boring as I like its (intended or unintended) discreet nature, and more importantly, the smaller sizes of the original Overseas Chronometer and Chronograph.  As a daily watch, I like that nobody gives it a second glance, but I know its special.  I have the Chronometer and it's size and bracelet work very well for me - it hasn't removed a single hair, yet.   I've been thinking about the OS chronograph lately, and would still pick the original with grey/silver dial - as it is the most discreet one AND the sub-dials are all the same size, which aesthetically appeals to me much more. I also don't think I like the reasoning for the OS-2 series not being COSC just because VC wants to reserve that for the Chronometre Royal.  Hopefully VC will consider getting COSC for the future OS-3 series with the in-house manufacture. BR, Dan
I have to admit that the COSC explanation seems to be a bit
03/31/2009 - 17:18
of a cop-out...
I guess the folks at VC do not think that a COSC sports watch is a
04/02/2009 - 13:45
logical product. Because if the OS was COSC certified how could you justify the other models not being so?
Mioooom Miaaamm!!!
03/31/2009 - 16:28
Thank you for this (as alxays) very complete and interesting article on the VC sport watches!! Both two are marvelous, whereas I don't like big dates at all, in this case, it's very discret with this tone of color in my opinion, I really love it The time only is just outstanding, the combo steel/titanium/anthracite grey sunray dial ... now, just want to know what you mean by "affordable" Alex?
its the most affordable VC! see my reply to Veillotron above re price
04/02/2009 - 13:46
nt
Wonderful New Overseas
03/31/2009 - 18:24
At last, a rubber strap OS time-only.  That is a watch fit for Denali .  Thanks for that great history lesson Alex.  It does tend to reflect a somewhat erratic view of sports watches by VC over the years.  The Gen II was becoming, IMHO, a bit fussy...more poseur than performer.  In fact, the QdI presents a more sporting design than the current OS.  But this creation is right on the mark!
I could definately see this one on your wrist up on Denali :-) (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:47
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Great write up on VC sports watches!
03/31/2009 - 20:08
Thanks for the article on the evolution of VC's Sport watches.  I always enjoy seeing pix and learning more about one of my favorite VC's of the past the 222.  Its also nice to find out who the original designer is once and for all.  I've seen a few articles stating that Gerald Genta designed the 222 and a few naming Georg Hysek(sp).  In addition, I had no idea there was a square variation of the 222 as ref. 46004/411.  Unfortunately, its square silbling much like the short lived square Royal Oaks by AP, are just not as appealing as the original designs.   Thanks again for a fantastic article. Best regards, Dino
thanks Dino (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:48
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Great survey of VC's efforts in sports watches Alex....
03/31/2009 - 20:21

And I quite like the newest addition to the family.

Bill

I would definately love to get the chrono sometine down the line (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:48
e
WOW
03/31/2009 - 21:30
Great thread Alex! I love those watches!!!!
How are you enjoying your 222? (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:49
e
Thanks for this fantastic coverage on the evolution of VC sporty...
04/01/2009 - 00:06

creations

I might be too young to remember the first luxury sports watches from the 70's but I truly enjoyed learning about them and their full growth over time. The newest OS timepieces underline the impeccable provenience of the sporty VC line. Very masculine and excuding virility and stealth. I would love to see the time-only model in the metal so I could give an opinion. Having seen the Ti/SS chrono I can say it will be a definite hot-seller! Still, the favorite OS ever remains...

the US OS is definately a killer but belive it or not I'm debating
04/02/2009 - 13:50
which one I like better!
I still prefer 222 sports watch
04/01/2009 - 03:50
The bazel of Overseas is not my cup of tea. Regards Ling
How I pray the 222 is remade in the Historiques line (nt)
04/02/2009 - 13:51
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Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
04/01/2009 - 04:39

Dear Alex,

Usually my comments are short and have a more philosophical approach. The material aspects of the watch are very important, but secondary in some cases. After reading your excellent article, I thought about the Overseas line. Undoubtedly, such line reached a prestigious place in the luxury sports watches. It is an icon in the segment. However, when a brand creates many variations in the same line, there is a great market risk to the watch or any other consumer product) to gradually loose its appeal. What is your opinion? 

the Overseas is not like some other models from other brands who has
04/02/2009 - 16:19
been offered in so many variations that it can disolve in water I personnaly prefer this version which is more casual/sporty than the one with the guilloche dial. In a way it opens the VC market to a wider audience.
Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
04/01/2009 - 05:05
sports/casual and the geometric shapes of the era, a futuristic flair back then (my apologies if i'm mistaken).    we had a joke about the early water resistance,. . 100 meters away water. . . i remember how awed we were by friends who wore their watches in showers and in the pool. and if my memory serves me right, trendsetters fashioned red LED watches in discos and music bars back then.    thanks and salutes! alex poldegala
salutes Poldegala (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:20
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Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
04/01/2009 - 10:36
Great article!!! Superb read!!! Thanks Alex for bringing us this new masterpiece!!! Best regards, Spiros
its so good to see you here Spiros :-) (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:21
e
Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
04/01/2009 - 13:57
Wow, so many beautiful watches on one page. Love this new overseas, nothing beats a leather crocodile strap, it's so classic.  So glad I clicked on this in my inbox.
good thing you opened your mail box :-) (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:21
e
Very nice...at last a complete set of strap/bracelet choices...
04/01/2009 - 15:41
Is there an all-titanium model?  That is, case as well as bracelet?  That would complete the evolutionary process to date.tempusfugit
no all titanium and don't think we shall see one in the
04/02/2009 - 16:22
near future. It would look a killer though
Thanks for the very informative article and a great read!
04/01/2009 - 16:06

Thanks you Alex for the informative article with lots of photos.  It is indeed nice to see the lineage of the Overseas and the history of VC sports/sporty watches in general. As already mentioned, VC did get lost somewhere along the road, but I think they are very much back on track with the new Overseas line.  I have the old Overseas with arabics and black dial and I must say that I prefer the 40mm size (but that is because I have a smaller wrist) and the dial design is not to shabby IMHO.  What I do like about the 2nd gen. overseas is the bracelet design and the interchangeability between the bracelet and leather/rubber straps.  It really broadens the appeal of the watch and makes it more flexible (dress up, dress down, rugged..). ...now if only it came out in 40mm (and I had the moolah). Cheers! Kazumi

I love the new OS bracelet but I don't like bracelet watches ! (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:26
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Re: The Evolution of Vacheron Constantin Sports Watches
04/01/2009 - 20:01
Alex: A great writeup - as always! Cheers Raman
thank you for your kind words Raman (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:26
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WARNING LONG POST !!
04/01/2009 - 21:43
Thanks AGAIN Alex, for an elegant article!  I think from a fantastic start , the first 'prototype' 1933, it was a steady decline until the 222 anniversary. The 70's is to forget, either watches, art, litterature, chlothes, cars and most music! Then again a decline to 1996. After that it's been so many beutyiful versions that I can't tell! I don't like the dual function on the Overses, it's not sporty, even though I have it my own, but it's more of a gentleman's watch , worn to a suit or a jacket and tie. Not in the sailboat or on the summit, or what do you say Dean? What I like is the different Chronographs and especially this one , with a dark brown, nealy black, leather strap. What I don't like is unnecessary text as, automatic and antimagnetic This is heavy in double sense, but to much second hand car dealer and the Rolex associations are there... BTW sold my Seadweller, didn't like it, no charisma, not more than my old SEIKO 100, so now I'm wearing this one again, My old Girard-Perregaux from early 50's, one of the first with bearing balls, if you shall beleive a ceratain Peter CDE, and that you shall. Nobody knows more about G-P. On the other hand after I talked to Vacheron & Constantin, they perhaps could do this one for me especially,  I think it's definitely cleaner without unnecessary text, don't you. BTW, the ampersand, & , doesn't show because the hand is covering it hej Doc
A Recession-Proof Vacheron?
04/02/2009 - 02:58
Doc, I can heartily agree that the Gen I Overseas was a simple and robust watch and very much the equal of the Nautilus and Royal Oak.  The chronograph version was even superior to the RO chrono and of course Patek had nothing to compare. Gen II Overseas, however, went "uptown" like the 333 and Phidias before; with gold chains and pukka shells to match it's sporty new hair weave!  While the design was expanded/exploited into all sorts of variations; each took a step away from the original concept...until now. This Gen II 1/2 Overseas, if priced right, could be spiritual continuation of the 222 and OS Gen I.  It could attract new customers to Vacheron at a time when many brands will see their markets shrivel up and blow away. Psychology changes radically during uncertain economic times.  I ranted on this at another forum but suffice to say that extravagances in design and marketing that might have once gathered attention and respect will at best be treated with indifference and at worst with scorn as wasteful enterprise.  Solid, no-nonsense, sensibly priced (for Vacheron that is) pieces like this new Overseas may prove invaluable to corporate coffers.
Mats, please take note, no unnecessary inscriptions on this one...
04/02/2009 - 11:36

That's why I love it plus the chrono subdials seem to me to be the same size Cheers,

Radek

the 70s were culturally a fantastic decade! Not only because I was
04/02/2009 - 12:00
born in that decade but some of the greatest films of all time were directed in that decade from The Godfather (1972) , Little Big Man (1970), Marathon Man (1976), Mad Max (1979), One Flew Over a Cuckoos Nest (1975), Midnights Express, to The Exorcist, Star Wars, Manhattan etc etc.... I really can't think of a decade with so many amazing films. In terms of music we saw the arrival of influential and diverse musical currents such as hard rock, hip hop, punk and disco Decoration wise I agree with you orange flowers on brown wall paper isn't my cup of tea
totally agree with u on this. i was growing up listening to my uncles'
04/02/2009 - 13:34
disco and rock music, watching them wearing high waisted and bell bottom pants and growing their hair long. indeed a culturally rich decade for arts and fashion.
Definitely on the right track for overseas to have the strap option...
04/02/2009 - 13:41
however, i also noticed that the hands on this overseas is different for the limited edition and the dial without decorations, i feel the design is returning to the roots of overseas 1. thanks alex for the extensive write-up of the evolution of VC sports watch, i benefited much from yr research.  i am also looking forward to the day 222 is reborn with the maltese cross embeded on the case front.
I find the non guilloche dials more sporty (nt)
04/02/2009 - 16:27
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04/02/2009 - 18:53
I love the time-only model a lot, especially with the grey leather band. It's sporty whilst being classy and discreet at the same time. What will be the diameter of this watch and do you know if there will be a smaller model (but PLEAAAAAASE WITHOUT diamonds) ? Who knows, one day maybe it will be mine
thanks Tacha, I don't know if there will be a smaller version but the
04/05/2009 - 22:53
big one looks good on a feminne wrist as well
Thanks for the great article Alex
04/03/2009 - 06:59
For some reason I like the Phidias, though it is atypical VC in design. The new Overseas looks great, my favourite variant so far. - SJX
good to see you here SJX (nt)
04/05/2009 - 22:55
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Wow! Love this article...
04/03/2009 - 14:39
If only the sub dials are symmetrical, it'd be even better (like the LE Japan Overseas). But I dig the time only...cool! Bravo VC!!!
thanks Rei, it really is a cool watch (nt)
04/05/2009 - 23:55
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04/03/2009 - 17:44
Thanks for a fascinating article, Alex. Its an interesting history and evolution that i never knew existed. Thanks for connecting the dots. Regards, Joseph
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04/05/2009 - 00:44
Thank you very mach, Alex.
glad you enjoyed it Vito (nt)
04/05/2009 - 23:57
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thanks for the kind words Joseph (nt)
04/05/2009 - 23:56
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What a wonderful review, thanks Alex!!
04/06/2009 - 05:11
Am  Am very excited to learn of the new availability of leather and rubber straps for the VC Overseas Chrono. I love the bracelet and its comfort, but also like variety and the opportunity for change. Greatly appreciate the fabulous news and planning by Vacheron. Think this will really heighten sales.  Now all I need to know is how to find those new straps. Will have to be patient, lol. Best regards, Matt.
a nice rubber strap on that chrono of yours would look good :-) (nt)
04/06/2009 - 11:14
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04/30/2009 - 08:58
Are you sure you aren't talking about today's world with the reference to bell bottoms (now back in style on the runways), flower power (in the form of the world going green), experimental music (if you heard my neighbor practice the tuba, you'd know!), and drugs (ain't everybody on some sort of anti-depressant or another?)? What goes around comes around in some form or another. Viciously cool and informative writeup of the evolution of Vacheron's sport watch, Alex. I might be confessing myself tragically unhip, but I like the square model predecessor. If you're cleaning out your watch drawers, please think of me! I must tick off now, Meehna
LOL love your examples :-) (nt)
05/10/2009 - 21:02
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05/02/2009 - 14:21

Hi Alex.

After long long time just concerning on our last discussion, I saw that V.C. house decided to write on the plate of Overseas with leather strip (Ref. 47040), the word ANTIMAGNETIC under of the word AUTOMATIC and it is really nice ! Thank you very much for your wonderful topic and for all your info !

Best regards,

Nikolas Argyropoulos

thanks Nikolas and good to see you here :-) (nt)
05/10/2009 - 21:03
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07/17/2011 - 23:41

Hi, I see that you are very familiar with VC watches and i have to ask some questions, would be super if you had time to reply!First of all, I am interested in buying a new watch. This is watches I am looking at right now, feel free to give me some more! 1.vacheron Constantin: 222 2.audemars Piguet: Royal Oak 3.patek Philippe: Nautilus What I was going to ask you is about the 222, it is a watch you can find on second hand market and if so, what are prices? and what is the different between the modes and the years? I've found this which maybe I meant to buy, what do you think? I started a thread, but have not come any further ....http://www.thehourlounge.com/index.php?module=Thread&action=viewEntire&threadid=59235 Best regards Dimitris