2nd VC Overseas purchase...winder required?

A few days ago I walked into the authorized Bangkok VC studio only to admire things. Soon after I came out the proud owner of a second brand new VC Overseas (49150). My first one was a new Dual Time (B01J 9228) while this second new one is the the Chronograph (B01R 9338). The rose gold is irresistible.
Now that I have two to alternate with and understand that the power reserve is good for 40 hours, it seems I should consider a winder, right? Is there a specific model/type that VC recommends for these watches (I think I read it somewhere)?   Also, up to now I simply adjust the time and carry on when I find my watch out of power after days in my safe, is this okay or am I really supposed to wind it up manually first? Thanks in advance. -Jay
congarts on the OS, please do post scans and impressions. As for the
06/24/2009 - 16:11
winder there is no special make that VC suggests (at least not that I'm aware of). I know that Orbita and Underwood have some nice models.  However I really don't think a winder is a really useful object unless you have a perpetual or full calendar watch which is a pain to set. Whan your watch has wound down I would suggest giving about 10 turns of the crown before wearing the watch.
Re: congarts on the OS, please do post scans and impressions. As for the
07/16/2009 - 13:36
Bangkok VCs I suppose down the street in Patpong, one might see some VC fakes in the market imported Taiwan. But I assure you these are the real deals purchased in the VC bontuiques in Hong Kong and Siam Paragon BKK.  US ambassordor home in the Background, perhaps I might be worthy of an invite with one of these on my wrist???
I agree with Alex
06/24/2009 - 17:53
First of all, congratulations, Jay. It seems you have fallen for the OS, big time.  I can imagine how the OS fits in with the hot Bangkok weather. I agree with Alex regarding the winder.  For one thing, good winders can cost quite a lot and, unless you have one or several watches that are difficult (troublesome) to set, I would recommend just giving the crown a few turns and setting the time before you go out of the house.  The watches don't really have to be wound all the time anyway.  If you wear your watches at least once a week then they should be fine without a winder. I have a couple of date-complication watches and setting them does get to be a chore at times.  Still, I am surviving without a winder.  I don't mind adjusting my time and date watches at all since they are very easy to set anyway.  Just think of it as saying good morning to your watch. Congrats again, and do post pics of the goods!! Best regards, Kazumi
For many years I had no winder, now I'm glad to have one!
06/24/2009 - 20:33
Normally I use to have about 2 - 3 automatic watches at home at the same time. To set the watch that stopped and turn it, happens always when you are short of time Since I bought a quite nice and funny winder, some years ago that takes 4 watches on, and starts and turn for an hour a day, or how long you want, you always have a watch ready. My advice is definitely to buy one. They are some very cheap models, this was a bit more exspensive, but the principle is easy. It's an electric motor, and an adapter... Have look It have worked perfect. Swiss product http://www.penelop.ch/english/home_cadre.htm Cheers Doc
Re: For many years I had no winder, now I'm glad to have one!
06/24/2009 - 23:40
Dear Doc, It's a very interesting winder. I'm in the process of hunting for my first winder as well and I come across this ... if I can find a way to install the watch supports from the PeneloP onto this Kunst winder.... Kunst Winder in action Matthew
You got the point!
06/25/2009 - 01:20
The usual winders, no names, are quite boring in design. Kunst Winder looks awful nice, BUT it's got only two watches! Penelop 4x, as the name says, take up to 4 watches and is also fun looking at. A plus, whenever you put the it on, it automatically remembers it, and start in 24 hours at the same time, if you not, as I usually do, pull out the wire Plus I had it going for at least 3 years.. Cheers Doc
Winders can cause as many problems as they solve.
06/25/2009 - 02:29
A winder is a useful thing to have because it means your watches are always ready to "grab and go." That is not only a convenience; it means that you don't wear out the gaskets and screw-down crowns by having to set them often. Most watches keep time differently on the winder than on the wrist. As a practical matter this means that even using the winder you will have to set the watch fairly frequently. For a high-quality watch, you still probably won't have to set the watch more often than every couple of weeks. Winders are supposed to be shielded against magnetism. However, if you have more than one winder in close proximity you will discover that while a winder may be shielded to protect the watches it contains, it probably isn't shielded to protect the watches in the adjoining winder. Also, even with careful use of power surge protectors, from time to time anomalies in your house's electric current may cause magnetization. The biggest problem, for me, is also the most subtle. Nearly all winders keep a watch rotating in a single plane at all times. This concentrates the wear on the pivots. I don't have enough data to prove it yet, but it appears to me that watches wear out their lubrication (and possibly their pivots) much more quickly on such a winder than in normal use. Even if those winders don't actually damage the watches, they may shorten service intervals. There exist a few winders that are made for use in watch shops. They don't look nice -- no mahogany veneer or leather. However, they rotate the watches through all planes. I have ordered one (with spots for six watches). In a few years I will know whether the variable-plane winders provide for longer service intervals than fixed-plane models.
Re: 2nd VC Overseas purchase...winder required?
06/29/2009 - 06:42
I  I happen to use several winders for my watch collection as I wear one to two watches a day depending on my activities. The convenience for me makes it quite enjoyable. My VC Overseas Chrono with the 1137 movement gets approximately 800 Turns Per Day in the Clockwise mode only as  specified for this watch. You can visit the Orbita database on line to view the specs for your watch or others. There are many opinions about the pros and cons for using a winder which I am not skilled enough to debate. In my case its never been a problem and I am very pleased for several years now. There are no VC specific winders that I am aware of. So as suggested take a look at Orbita and Underwood offerings. Best of luck with your new watch. Matt