47112 WINDER PLEASE HELP

DEAR FRIENDS:

AFTER 4 MONTHS I FINALLY HAVE MY WINDING BOX.  I TRIED TO PUT THE WATCH ON THE WINDER BUT I HAVE NOT  AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.  I DOWNLOADED ONE FROM ORBITA SITE BUT I THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT.  ORBITA USES FOUR C BATTERIES FOR 6V AND THIS ONE USES ONE 3.6 LITHIUM BATTERY.   THE BOX DID NOT COME WITH THE ADAPTER FOR THE CROWN.  CAN I GET AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL AND THE CROWN ADAPTER FROM VC ?

REGARDS TO ALL AND THANK IN ADVANCE,

JAIME

is that the Orbita winder for manual wind watches? I may be wrong but
07/25/2008 - 17:23

the Malte perpetual chrono comes with the manual winder so I guess Vc may be able to help.

Re: 47112 WINDER PLEASE HELP
07/25/2008 - 17:55

Greetings,

I assume you are speaking about the manual winder part of the prentation box that comes with watch.

If so it is not made by Orbita but by some other company in Belgium.

Unfortunately, it a very poor design and has several features that should have been rethought!

The most serious is the "prong-like" head that fits over the crown. It is metal instead of a plastic material or coating. It fits poorly on the crown of the watch, altough interestingly enough it fits the crown of the Lange Datograph perfectly

I had to file the prongs down a bit to get it to fit. And even then, it tends to skip which risks scratching the crown.

Furthermore, because of the skipping over the teeth on the crown, the winder does not keep the watch wound for more than about 5 days. It was a disappointment to see winder work so poorly. I took it apart to see how it was constructed and tried tweaking the parts to get them to work, but it the results were inconsistent.

I personally do not use it and manually wind the watch. The only time I do use it is when I'm going away for a few days and won't be able to wind it myself.

If you can afford it or really needed have a detailed look at the Orbita winder.

VC tells me they understand the problem in theirs and I did have some email conversations about it with Dominique Bernaz. We'll see if they redesign it to work properly.

Good luck!

Joseph

** EUREKA ** Re: Re: 47112 WINDER PLEASE HELP
07/26/2008 - 02:41

Dear Joseph:

First of all thank you for your fast and accurate response.

I was measuring my blood sugar this morning and suddenly it hit me.

The cover of the needle of the J&J glucose metter fits perfectly over the crown.

The only thing you have to do is cut the base of the cover in a sqare shape with a kitchen knife and VOILA !

Here are some pictures and i hope from now on you enjoy your winder too.

Best regards,

Jaime

Re: ** EUREKA ** Re: Re: 47112 WINDER
07/27/2008 - 07:18

Ingenious,

I'll try it!

Thanks,

Joseph

That is indeed ingenious!!!
07/28/2008 - 16:49

Thanks Jaime!!!

I have probably the same winder for my 47212, and I stopped using it after one use, since it was scratching the case around the crown! I'm guessing the winder I have is broken (I have spoken with my AD, and VC will sort it out), but once I have one that works, this seems like a very safe solution...

I wear my VC almost ever day (I only took it off once in the last month), but if ever I was going to on a more adventorous trip (like a walk in the mountains with tick-talk...), I'd like to be able to use the winder so that the perpetual calendar stays up-to-date...

And please post more pictures of your beautiful watch - I love that golden moonphase

Cheers,

Francois

Re: ** EUREKA ** Re: Re: 47112 WINDER PLEASE HELP
07/29/2008 - 04:37

Hi Jaime,

Well I tried it and it seems to work.

I had to buy a box of 100 of these things since they're not sold individually, but being a physician, I already knew that.

Anyway it took a few minutes to figure out where to make the cuts and after practising on one, I got it right on the second. But I used an exacto knife and a binocular loupe to cut away the plastic. You must have been really lucky or very skillful to do it with a kitchen knife!

The collar is quite a tight fit on the crown but it does hold it well. The trick was to seat the plastic collar on the prongs which took a few tries but was ultimately successful.

Now the test will be to see if the winder keeps the watch wound.. But the problem with the prongs skipping and scratching the crown is solved...TAKE NOTE VC!! You can do better on the design!

Thanks again Jaime, for an elegant and simple solution to a difficult problem.

Regards,

Joseph

LOL MacGyver us back :-) that is ingenious!!! nt
07/29/2008 - 22:57

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