Alex my friend and all other friends, please

stop this just disgusting fake posts Alex my friend and all other friends, please
that we have seen to much of recently.
Vacheron&Constantin is THE absolute outstanding watchmaker since 1755,so why let us destroy this fantastic Club we call The Hour Lounge with this rubbish ?

I don't think it's fun, it actually hurts me to see this time after time,
I see a risk of seroius aficionados loose their interest, by posting this kind of obvious disasters.
Let's keep this Forum clean and let us enjoy Alex's beautiful articles and perhaps even more,
all you my friends, one after the other so proudly present your fantastic pictures of the art,
that only our beloved Vacheron&Constantin can still produce Alex my friend and all other friends, please

I want more of your new investments, vintage or new,
but personal pictures taken by the proud owner!
Just simple pics like this, but honest Alex my friend and all other friends, please 

Alex my friend and all other friends, please

Carpe Diem

It looks fun to me (and HL has to educate) (nt)
09/11/2009 - 12:27
I can see where you're comming from Doc but its difficult not to
09/11/2009 - 13:07
answer these questions as our role is also to "educate".
I agree with you Alex, but...
09/11/2009 - 21:33
our roll is to educate on pieces that are possibly authentic VC pieces, such as the antique chrono that you and Doc were discussing. This piece turned out to be a franken, but many things about it pointed to the possibility of being authentic. This should not include watches that are obviously fake junk like the last couple we have seen posted. Best regards, Mike
I get the same feeling, Mats and my recent 'fake' post was supposed to
09/11/2009 - 14:37
shed a different light on the whole 'fake industry', thus the ironic tone and perspective. What has happened after my publication scared me to death.... So many postings on the fakes, really hard to believe... Now I feel a bit embarassed to have posted my Antalya show post no matter how many good laughs it had brought out among the Loungers For one, I agree with you. We should try and keep this place clean. Maybe we should create a seperate section to discuss fakes (how about a pop-up window with info: do you want to ask about the origin of your watch go to this and that section of HL. Let's keep the main discussions fake-free!) On the other hand, there are so many counterfeiters out there that I feel we should be the ones to keep guard and discourage purchase of this shit-worth-salvage scrap-metal... All the best, Mats! Radek
Dear Radek, I couldn't agree more!
09/11/2009 - 15:19
I know your post was a joke, but with a attached message! In every word I'm with you, in fact I could have written your answer to myself What is interesting are watches where it's a question IF it possibly could be a VC or not. People who have inherited or bought it 'for nothing', or a special looking vintage. Or if it's possible Franken or not, as this was from the very respectyed firm that offered it to me. I was so hot on it, but considered the price and after consulting Alex, I let the seller send it to la Maison, and it was a Franken!  Both Alex and I, we also had pics of movement, hallmarks o the back, were convinced that it was the real thing What I react to is those $5 watches on Ebay and on the street. I very good frienf of me, with no interest in watches two weeks ago told me he had been to China and brought home 50(!) watches for about $ 100. He did it for fun and I know he only will use them for practical jokes.  Thanks and enjoy the weekend my dear friend   Doc
Subtle fakes are more of a worry!
09/11/2009 - 18:35
Hey guys, I agree that those standard awful fakes are very annoying to keep looking at over and over...but some of the more subtle fakes are very interesting to study.  Too bad they don't often get posted here BEFORE they are bought by unsuspecting people.  Doc's example is a great one of how proper research can save you grief! For instance, there is a Verger-Vacheron pocketwatch currently on fleabay.  The seller doesn't disclose it has a refinished dial but at least answered honestly when I asked.  Nevertheless, as the true condition is not disclosed, I would consider that piece a "fake" as it is not in original condition and there is IMHO some intention to mislead.  These types of pieces are worth some discussion on the forum but I'd rather not waste my time on the obvious junk .
Thank you Dean,
09/11/2009 - 19:15
as I know you so well, I'm not astonished by your utmost elegant answer. I'm more than happy feeling 'heavy guys' like you and Radek supporting, and even more, understand my sometimes cryptic formulations. Sometimes it can be because my mother tongue is not English, but since I the last years have written more in English than Swedish, I think I have got a feeling even for this amazing language. I don't think I read a book in Swedish the last 5 years.  I have nearly all Winston S. Churchill's boks in 1st edition, and he is the man who made me discover the carisma of your language.  I had before many of his books in Swedish, also 1st editiions, but the language was completely dead, when translated. I didn't know that 10 years ago. OTH Sweden gave him a Nobel Price in literature Please enjoy the weekend as I shall do Doc
A Truly Great Man!
09/12/2009 - 01:15
As the immortal Sir WC once said, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."  Probably not talking about watches though.....
I agree Dean, it is a bit scary (nt)
09/11/2009 - 21:34
I agree Dean, it is a bit scary (nt)
09/11/2009 - 21:34