am i the only one that is wondering where are the VCs in the used ....

market ? been searching for the VC mercator, but not one found and also observed that there are not that many attractive ones for sale.

hmmmm....the " secret of vacheron constantin" unveiled? 
real collector's watches?
any ideas or explanation for this observation, and please share yr collectibles here.

here are mine:

am i the only one that is wondering where are the VCs in the used ....

am i the only one that is wondering where are the VCs in the used ....

09/30/2010 - 02:17
09/30/2010 - 06:17
10/01/2010 - 01:04
that's quite a collection! I agree that the market
09/29/2010 - 22:13
For vintage or fine high end 2nd hand VCs is rather empty. Is that because the flippers/dealers haven't gotten into the brand yet or that collectors are holding on to their watches? Time will tell. However according to the unwritten rule of the net after having spent 2 years searching for a Mercator you will buy one, then a few will pop up on the market for prices under what you paid :-)
thanks for the consolation . :) nt.
09/30/2010 - 17:13
It could also be the resale value of VC is not as crazy as Patek or AP
10/01/2010 - 06:25
flippers are the ones ruining the market just like speculators do in any market. If they don't see profit potential then they don't touch the brand. Look at Patek or AP ROO, they love these 2, maybe with Panerai as well. However, I tend to go with the believe that collector are holding onto their VCs tight!
They are neatly settled either in your watch box or on your wrist ;-)
09/29/2010 - 23:31
A very nice collection! I especially like the RG (I think) Jubilee 1755  You know me, I am into the modern VC collectibles. Congrats!
sadly, most spend their time in the box , only occasional wind-up.....
09/30/2010 - 17:18

and appreciation. i don't have much opportunity for formal dress-up, but i can't resist the dress watches from VC , how ironical!  anyhow, the 1755 is a RG,  good eye despite my poor pics. i would boldly say it will line up pretty well with yr perpetual chrono, the case is phenomenal and signatory, you shouldn't miss it! and that is why my impetus to get an mercator as my next VC.

Another Beauty
09/30/2010 - 02:17
Sweet collection .  If I may share this 1967 Chronometer Royal Ref. 7262... As with your lovely 6782 "Thunderbird", the caliber 1072 beating within is as captivating as the exterior...
Dean, u had the sweetest V&C collection which i admired, but .........
09/30/2010 - 17:26
sacrificed for a better course. would u share your secret of acquisition? all of them seemed in their mint condition, did u restore them or did they came that way? i also realise, yr collection also centred in the great movements that VC manufactured. "knowledge is power", a phrase which  a peddler impressed on me while i was a schoolboy wandering in a flea market
Some Thoughts...
10/01/2010 - 22:08
Aaron, I've sent a few watches for restoration and even more for the C of A, but escalating prices at the factory make this less likely in the future.  Instead, I try to obtain the best condition from the start so that expensive restorations are not required.  That certainly is more of a challenge at any time, but even more so right now with the internet marketplace dominated by dealers and flippers who haven't got a friggin clue.
Plenty of Overseas Chrono
09/30/2010 - 06:17
but you're right, no too many VCs offered not to mention the more serious ones. I also thought of that, as I read the interview of Mr. Proelloch (did I write his name right?) few years ago that once you bought a VC, you'd never want to sell it. Hm, thought it was marketing talk but now I am starting to believe it! I got 2 and I have never really considered selling them though someone offered a good pirce on one.
Although I agree with you in general...
09/30/2010 - 07:42

Although I agree with everyone in general (few people seem to part with their VCs), the horrendous resale value of some of the more plebian models might be one reason... I mean, why bother?  (although this might be true in general for most luxury items). Just a thought. kazumi 

great thought! wonder how the market will change if prices escalates?
09/30/2010 - 17:32


agree that it is difficult to part with a VC because they offered such
09/30/2010 - 17:30
good value. however, it has crossed my mind to sell two of my extra-plat to get the new 1955!
Haven't seen the new 1955 up close but it certainly gets my vote (nt)
09/30/2010 - 18:45
Re: am i the only one that is wondering where are the VCs in the used ....
09/30/2010 - 10:16
When I was on the outside looking in 3 months ago (not just outside the VC family, but completely new to fine watches), it was one of the first things I noticed about VC. A quick survey of the market showed a stunning lack of recent vintage VCs available. It was quite frustrating since my favorite pick was the discontinued Patrimony Ultra Thin (33093), which I was unsuccessful in finding. In the process, though, I stumbled across another watch that spoke to me, the Patrimony Traditionnelle self-winding date (87172), being offered by a local private seller. Even though I had been intending to buy new (started looking for preowned watches only because the one I wanted was completely unavailable new), given the rarity of recent vintage VC dress watches on the market and the very favorable price (to the buyer) of preowned VCs, I jumped on the opportunity to get that one. This frustrating secondhand market was actually a big draw for me. Comparing a certain watch-oriented website's community listings, the first page of VC listings stretches back an order of magnitude further in time than the first page of PP listings. Sure, PP sells more watches, but not an order of magnitude more. Factor out the relatively available Overseas models, and recent vintage preowned VC dress watches are a rarity. Simple math told me that the owner of a new-ish VC dress watch is holding on to it (on average) a lot longer than the owner of a comparable PP dress watch. If that doesn't say "desirable", I don't know what does. Going back to the Ultra Thin, I keep looking for one, but haven't even found one available, much less one in the color and dial style that I want, with papers/boxes, and at an agreeable price. I'll keep on looking, though... one's bound to show up eventually.
refer to Alex's answer in this thread. be mindful of his warning :) nt
09/30/2010 - 17:34
So noted! :) [nt]
09/30/2010 - 18:26
When you find one...pull the trigger!
09/30/2010 - 19:37
Only because I have too much time on my hands I look at too many reputable "Pre-Owned" sites. I stumbled accross an almost too good vintage RG Vacheron with original box and RG pin buckle. MY issues were the dial was too clean and there were no scans of the movement or open case back.  The seller responded to my request for specific scans within a day. They were clean, clear and complete. The asking price was reasonable. I did my due dilligence and even solicited the "Don" for his advice.  My intention was to send it to Vacheron for a new strap, normal service and a Letter of Authenticity. I returned to the seller two days after initial contact and offered to buy the watch for "asking price". Too Late! The moral of the strory is simiple: More people than ever realize the value of vintage VC's. Hopefully this "beauty" is in on someone's wrist as they read this. If so, wear in good health. Miki
Wonderful collection
10/01/2010 - 01:04
.. so nice to see your watches... great range of styles/ VCs are, I tend to think, one of those brands that is bought because they are beautiful and then kept hold of... retail and resale are a 2ndary consideration... the people buying them just love them. there are few flippers beacause what will they make?.... the brand is relatively under-discovered - stop a thousand people in the street... how many have heard of VC... and yet once you become aware of them, they draw you in, and in, and in!
Re: am i the only one that is wondering where are the VCs in the used ....
10/06/2010 - 19:23
This one is wonderfull ! Congratulations for your collection . And about the subject : I never succed to see in the real life a 33093, before the day I got it , and I was the quicker guy !
Maybe you need a little trip to Paris. I took these less than a month
10/07/2010 - 23:50
ago. Happy hunting! Best, Tim (you can send me a PM if you want specifics on the location, but that is not as fun.)