Any Silver Collectors Out There?

A side interest that came with collecting Vacheron is a desire to also collect non-watch items related to Vacheron.  Besides boxes, cases, manuals and advertising literature, I like objects that feature the Maltese Cross.

Any Silver Collectors Out There?

This silver picture frame has a very military look and I think dates from the 19th century.  The hallmarks appear German, the "800" is silver content and "P" is a date letter, but that's as far as I know.  Can anyone help identify the markings?

Any Silver Collectors Out There?
Hi Dean, I'm not a silver collector, but could the "P" also be a
03/27/2009 - 07:14
marker indicating that manufacturer, or is it to plain to serve such a purpose? How large is the piece?  Do you know what it is used for?  It looks like a decorative ring, but I don't know what the semi-circle on the bottom of the inner diameter is for.  Is it part of a stand? BR, Dan
Maker's Mark
03/27/2009 - 22:26
Hi Dan:  I think the maker's mark is the one on the far left that looks like a squirrel's tail beside a palm tree or something like that (don't tell Joseph or he'll run for his varmint gun)!! The object stands upright at a 30 degree angle and is 4" high.  It has a wide groove inside the circular frame where I believe a portrait would be mounted. This true Maltese Cross is different from the Iron Cross used by the German military and I would rule out the Hospitaller's cross of the Order of St. John due to the military arms.  Perhaps the Knights of Malta?
Pretty cool, you could frame and hang one of your
03/28/2009 - 05:12
beautiful pictures from it!  BR, Dan
Nice and mystique peice!
03/27/2009 - 21:51
Very nice indeed, do you know what it's been used for? Dog collar or weapon? Yes, I collect old Swedish siver, especially from the 18th century, and has for 30 years, so it's some kg's now. Here is 1 kg or as you can see 0,9983kilo, Swedish Boliden mine. From 1759 there is a very smart system, unique for Sweden, where you immideately can see from which year a piece is done! See hallmarks below. I only collect from 18th century, this because if it's from 1799 it usually cost twice as much as from 1800, and you also can sell it to a good price. Yes it's true, psycological, but what isn't? Here is a vase from 1770, and it's marked in the bottom with? H2 yes right again It's placed beside a silver VC to show the size, and it also have some gold att the foot and around the upper part. In this case I'll definitelly go for the vase, and you? I'll rember your which Dean, if I see something! Climb on hej, Doc
I'll Take the Watch
03/27/2009 - 22:27
Doc, it doesn't surprise me that you would have an interest in fine antique silver .  I see that Swedish date markings are also numbered to provide an exact date rather than a range like other countries...smart! Alas, my interest is in the Vacheron connection rather than the object itself - so I'll take the watch .