Are these VC's fake?

Watch info 

Vacheron Constantin Manufacture Hologere, Geneve, depuis 1755 186636

Vacheron Constantin 42005/732998. 750 in a rectangle box.  R in a diamond shape.

i think the sliver one is fake could not find any similar one on the Internet.

and gold watch strap was all ripped so I took it off 

any info would be helpful thanks

Yes, both are fake (nt)
06/08/2016 - 03:12