are Vacheron Constantin collectors "different"? Here's an interesting

mail I recently received:

To be a true Vacheron&Constantin WIS,
you have to be a special kind of person.
Sensitive to art, history, personal touch,
traditions, and going your own way !
Not mainstream people.


Re: are Vacheron Constantin collectors "different"? Here's an interesting
02/02/2008 - 16:03

Although I probably won't qualify as a VC collector, I definitely love the brand above all others.

I am not at all an art buff but you don't have to be one to appreciate the artistic design elements that VC has presented through the years (I guess I am an art buff in liking VC's art of watchmaking!). Of course I value VC's uninterrupted history and the tradition of watchmaking that it represents.

While everyone else says Patek is THE watch to have, I am not ashamed to say that I still love my VC's the most - so I guess you could say I am "going my own way"...

Well, as to being a special kind of person, I guess only my 68 year old mom and 1 year old daugter might say yes to that...

Of course, eveyone in the forum is special, and that makes appreciating VC all the more fun!



With all due respect to the author of the quote...
02/02/2008 - 18:02

it strikes me as nonsense.

I am not suggesting that some V&C collectors do not fit that description, but the implication that one cannot be a "true" V&C collector without satisfying those criteria is, well, nonsense. And it would be equally silly to suggest that serious collectors of other high-end watch brands are less likely to be sensitive to art, history, etc.

I do agree, for obvious reasons, that V&C collectors are (generally) more likely to be non-mainstream than Patek or Rolex collectors, but that's about as far as I'd go.


Tony C.

I find that very arrogant (nt)
02/02/2008 - 19:16


When reading these lines,
02/02/2008 - 23:24

I myself feel that it suits me very well !

I believe the author means that VC still is a "small" brand,

and that's because of those factors.

And that's also why it's quite difficult finding objects.

Over the 252 years it has been a realtive low production,

in numbers, but not in quality.

VC has also been connected with avant garde attitude,

most of it's career.

Think of the "digital" pocket watches, nearly 200 years ago !

And my special interst, art deco,

where no one can compete with VC

No I don't think it's arrogant in it's meaning,

and the author also writes,

"true Vacheron&Constantin WIS",

which I as a VC aficionado and WIS,

recognize as that he means,

VC collector mainly or only,

and in that case, I agree with the author !

It's definitely the number one brand for me,

but not the only (!),

and I love them even when they don't work


I'd take it as a compliment, but also with a couple of grains of salt
02/03/2008 - 05:59

It is a bit arrogant and egocentric because it gives me the sense that  "special" = "better"- which I don't believe of when it comes to Vacheronistas. 

I don't think it's arrogant, but
02/03/2008 - 10:48

too restrictive, too limitative. You don't have to be like that to appreciate a brand, and more especially VC!

02/03/2008 - 14:02

...I think I am snobish. I like to think VC is an exclusive brand different from PP,  Rolex... only elite and well educated people can understand such a brand !!!! with an exclusisve Art Deco history !!!

Just kidding ????

Re: Yes...
02/03/2008 - 15:52

What I like  the most is discovering this lounge and the differents talks...and sometime creating some as well.

I must admit I also like Jaeger,  Movado , IWC, Omega (30T2RG) and many more...

I do not agree with this statement.
02/03/2008 - 15:08

I don’t think that differentiating WIS by their favourite watch brand is right; I agree with Mercator that it is a little arrogant.

Watches are all about emotions and personal taste, something that is, to state the obvious, very subjective. I don’t know how one could differentiate between a Breguet fan, for example, and VC one…

I think a difference can be made between “investors” and “pure collectors”. But to say that all PP and Rolex WIS are “investors” would obviously be wrong, as I am sure a lot of them are fans of the watches strictly on an emotional level…

Even just looking at the HL community, I can see that we are all attracted to VC for different reasons. Taking our most famous member, Doc, as an example, he is mostly attracted to VC for its Art Deco, vintage pieces. I, on the under hand, while I still find a lot of the vintage pieces beautiful, much prefer the new collection. At the same time, my love for VC is not exclusive and doesn’t mean I cannot be attracted to Hublot or some other “fashion” brand…

As for the statement that VC WIS are less mainstream, I am not sure I agree with that too. Maybe compared to the PP and Rolex WIS, but a lot more mainstream than the "Independents WIS"... Let's not forget that VC is recognized as one of the Top 3...

I really like the community of Loungers because everybody is open minded and unpretentious, and I wouldn’t like to think that we're a bunch of people who think they are better than the rest.

From my experience only few people
02/03/2008 - 15:11

appreciate VC watches. My observation is that mostly the multi-millionaires are the one patronizing VC's and some who are not that rich but knows a lot about watches. Those who buy PP's and Rolex's are the peole who does not want to be left out. Its like a trend. Especially those who buy Rolex's they thought it is already the best. IMHO majority who buys PP are people who think it is an investment. If you ask them why they can't answer. They do not know anything about the watch and its movement.

Its really nice to have people here that shares their experiences not only about VC but on many other things!

Go with what you love, feels right and continue to learn>>>
02/03/2008 - 22:34

I think the rest will sort itself out. Best, Tim

Re: are Vacheron Constantin collectors "different"? Here's an interesting
02/04/2008 - 08:15

Well I think they (Vacheron Constantin Watch Collectors) are certainly different from the Patek Philippe and Rolex Crowd, with those people (no pun intended) it is about collectability and putting it up at auction.  I don't like Breguet or Audemars Piguet, I just don't feel the quality is as good as a Vacheron Constantin.  What about the A. Lange & Sohne Crowd?  As we all know A. Lange & Sohne is owned by the same company as Vacheron Constantin.  Of Course Patek is great but it is your NORMAL WATCH.  Whats different with the Vacheron and A Lange and Sohne Group?

Too general a statement...
02/04/2008 - 12:24

I do not like 'generalizing' and 'stereotyping' in general

There is now way to put any VC collector/WIS in one category and other brand aficionados into another. It just doesn't work that way.

Looking at the wide variety and range of Loungers I can tell we are all different and different VC's attributes appeal to us. Yet we are all the same - united in the love of the most precious and beatiful watchmaking manufacture in the world. And this is what makes us special (not better)

Well Said, Well Spoken (nt)
02/05/2008 - 01:53
Re: Too general a statement...
02/05/2008 - 05:54

Well we are really talking about watches and not people, I don't think it is necessary to be politically correct when talking about types of people who wear wristwatches.  I think Patek Philippe is great because it doesn't sell at full price like Patek Philippe and it doesn't have a big reasale price like Patek Philippe, and the list prices of Vacheron Constantin are less than Patek Philippe.  I think your paying for the name with Patek Philippe, and A. Lange & Sohne and Vacheron Constantin you get much more for your money than you get from Patek Philippe.

Just like the Tulip Bulbs going ski high in price centuries ago, you can say the same about Patek Philippe.