Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

After about a year at the VC spa, I was thrilled to get my 4737 Cioccolatone Automatic back on Saturday.  I am in the process of replacing the strap and buckle, which are not original, but wanted to post a few pics, especially of the beautifully overhauled P1019/1 movement with the swan neck regulator. One of the things that I found interesting when comparing this watch (manufactured in 1957) to the current Toledo, is that this one is a bit larger than the current version.  

Anyway, I do look forward to giving it lots of wrist time.  I'll post some wrist shots when it is properly strapped.

Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014

 

 

06/02/2014 - 21:04
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06/02/2014 - 16:19
WHL
06/02/2014 - 16:25
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06/06/2014 - 10:04
A beautiful treasure, Michael Enjoy every second of wristime!
06/01/2014 - 23:44

yes

Thanks Radek! nt
06/02/2014 - 21:04

nt

Re: Born in 1957 - Reborn in 2014
06/02/2014 - 01:26

A real gem, Michael!

It looks like it was worth the wait.

I do love that design.

Wear it in the best of health, Michael.

Joseph

Wow.... absolutely beautiful
06/02/2014 - 10:15

I see they restored it with the & between V and C. Lovely. I cannot quite make out the Geneve marking. Which e (or e's) is (or are) accented?  You have done a great thing sending this to the spa for refreshing. It is a lovely piece and worthy of the loving restoration. 

The dial is original - did not have it refinished.
06/02/2014 - 21:16

it is hard to see in the photo, but the first e in Geneve has an accent.

Thanks JB - See you soon in NY I hope. nt
06/02/2014 - 21:05

nt

Looks great
06/02/2014 - 13:57

Congratulations

Looks great!

 

Thank you Hamish! nt
06/02/2014 - 21:06

nt

Having thrown-out the bath water, Michael goes shopping...
06/02/2014 - 14:37

Michael, I can understand your desire to acquire a replacement strap and buckle having had such wonderful restoration work carried out.

Do, please, let us have another viewing when the whole package comes together! 

Best wishes

 

Tony

Certainly Tony!
06/02/2014 - 21:07

It may take a few weeks, but I will post some "on the wrist" photos then.

What a treat!
06/02/2014 - 16:19

The movement absolutely sparkles yes.  Forgive me for a lapse of memory, but is this your first "&" piece?  

Regardless, a real prize heart

Thanks - Not my first ampersand
06/02/2014 - 21:11

I had a 4241 Triple Calendar from 1945 restored last year.  Still looking for the right pieces from the 30s and the 60s.

Ahhh, maybe a shaped caliber
06/02/2014 - 21:15

from the 30s yes.  The 60s provides a cornucopia of delicible delights...looking forward to your selections smiley

That looks great!
06/02/2014 - 16:25

Looking forward to seeing that one in person, Michael.

 

Bill

Thanks Bill - See you soon I hope! (nt)
06/02/2014 - 21:17

nt

I love the Cioccolatone, I really miss mine which I
06/03/2014 - 09:15

sold hoping to find a RG...which never showed up!I love the Cioccolatone, I really miss mine which I

It looks almost identical to mine!
06/04/2014 - 00:57

The only difference that I can see is the small hour indexes.  I am going to put a brown strap with stiching on mine.

Enjoy this beauty !
06/03/2014 - 10:50

A watch with an incredible presence on the wrist, wear it in good health !

cheers

François

Thanks Francois! nt
06/04/2014 - 02:08

nt

Congratulations, Mike!
06/03/2014 - 15:59

The movement looks especially clean and like new.  I went back to look at the original photos you posted when you first got this watch to compare and contrast.  I must admit I am very interested in learning more about the restoration process by by VC.  It is almost a necessity when we start delving into vintage pieces as you have.  I would love to learn more about the decisions you made in the process of getting this one restored. It sounds like you decided not to have the dial restored or replaced, for instance.  Were there certain recommendations made by VC that were "required" and others that were optional?  Was there a good deal of back and forth discussion between you and VC? Any surprises along the way once VC opened up the "hood?"

I completely understand if you would rather keep these details private, and forgive me please if I am being too intrusive.  I am just really curious about whatr VC can do interms of restoration and what should and should not be done.  I hoope we will have some opportunity to discuss this in person at sme point. 

In the meanwhile, your Cioccolatone looks amazing.  I, too, am surprised that it is bigger than the recent Historiques model.   This watch truly was a novelty for its time.

Best,

Robert

Happy to Share My Thoughts, Robert
06/04/2014 - 02:07

Deciding what to restore and what to leave untouched is always difficult when you have a vintage piece that needs some work.  If the case is only slightly worn or tarnished, most collectors would rather leave it alone.  Likewise with the dial and hands.  I don't see any value, however, in leaving a movement in worn condition if it can be restored by the manufacture with original parts (including replacement parts, if needed).  

My main reason for having the watch serviced was the condition of the movement.  It was running, but the rotor was loose and the amplitude was low - both indications that it needed an overhaul.  Because the case was more than a little worn, I approved the light polishing that is included in the cost of service.  I also approved the replacement of the crystal, which was an added cost.  The wear on the dial, while visible, was consistent with the age of the watch and, in my opinion, added to the authenticity of its vintage.  While I am certain that VC would have done a beautiful job on the dial, I declined to have it refinished at an additional charge.  Likewise, I declined to have new hands put on the piece.  They are still in good shape and there is always the danger that they will not be exactly the same as the original hands.

Looking foward to chatting more next time I see you.   

Thank you, Mike
06/04/2014 - 14:45

..for your generosity in sharing your thoughts on the restoration.  I, too, look forward to discussing this further when we see each other next.  

Best regards,

Robert

Incomparable design for an unmistakable watch.
06/03/2014 - 16:20

For the reasons above, this watch represents Vacheron Constantin at its best, or, better said, what VC represents to me.

Did they change the crown?

 

Thanks - The crown is original
06/04/2014 - 02:18

The offered to replace it but I declined.

That's beautiful Mike!
06/04/2014 - 02:26

The new Historiques 1951 is at the top of my short-list.  Your original version is terrific!  Congrats!!!  BR, Dan  

I look forward to an on-the-wrist compare . . .
06/05/2014 - 12:00

of the old and new versions.

What a beauty!
06/06/2014 - 10:04

Thanks for sharing! I didn't realize the original version is slightly bigger than the current Toledo.

Very interesting and it shows VC was already ahead of its time way back with larger sized case.

 

Beautiful dial, case and movement - thanks for sharing them here!

 

cheers

robin