Cal. 4400 and L941.1

How does the new Vacheron cal. 4400 measure against the Lange L941.1? I haven't found any detailed information on the 4400 regarding chatons etc., but it seems to me that the L941.1 has the upper hand when it comes to mechanical details. On the other hand, the Geneva seal may indicate that Vacheron is esthetically more detailed.

After some research I have shortlisted my choices for a dress watch to Vacheron's new Patrimony Traditionnelle 38mm and the Lange Saxonia. As they both are somewhat similar in appearance, it seems to me that the inside gets to play a bigger role. Any information that would help me choose one or the other is most welcome.


PS. I first posted this question on Timezone's Vacheron forum, but it appears that most Vacheron enthusiasts are here.
Saxon tradition vs Geneva tradition
08/28/2009 - 13:18
Lange with their movements have reinvented the aesthetics of the Saxon traditional watchmaking with the gold chatons (which at the time were used to keep the rubies in place but which today only have an aesthetic purpose), blued screws and the special color of the top plate give a full technicolor look. VC with its inhouse calibers have a very Genavn approach with the shape of the bridges. I must however admit that in 1994 when Lange came back on the market they gave a huge kick in the ass of the Swiss watch industry in terms of finish and aesthetics and if today we see a finish of a higher quality (at least aesthetically) of finish in pieces from high end Swiss brands I'm certain its due to Lange! Technically both movements are quite close in terms of size and thickness howerver the Lange has a 40h power reserve whereas the VC has a 65h power reserve. Here is what Kari Voutilainen had to say about the cal 4400: click here to see the post
"First modern caliber finished so well"
08/28/2009 - 14:19
Thank You Alex! This definitely helps me forward: "The quality of this movement is much higher than what we see in other high end brands (Kari did in fact give some names that I prefer not to give out but you can imagine who he was referring to). This is the first modern caliber I see finished so well.” This final comment from Your article with Kari Voutilainen seems to answer my question as it practically rules out all other brands. Voutilainen being my fellow Finn I may as well trust him. When I still have You, when do You think we can expect the new Patrimony Traditionnelle 38mm in red gold? Best, Jonas
Delivery has already started. Keep us posted on your choice :-) nt
08/28/2009 - 15:26
08/28/2009 - 15:36
Thank You again Alex! I thought the launch was only in yellow gold. If there also is also a red gold out of the gate, then I will definitely opt for the Vacheron. Best, Jonas
for the moment it exists only in RG - tervetuloa to the Lounge (nt)
08/28/2009 - 15:50
Kiitos! (nt)
08/28/2009 - 20:00
If you're really looking for mechanical details,
08/30/2009 - 12:53
chatons are meaningless but a Breguet overcoil hairspring and a free-sprung balance would make a big difference. A number of manufacturers are making free-sprung balances; Breguet overcoils remain rare (except for Rolex). I wish I knew why. I would nevertheless expect the Vacheron to keep better time than the Lange if I am correct in my belief that it has a faster beat rate. (That may also translate to a need for more frequent service or replacement of worn parts.)