Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Dear Loungers,

May I submit a few pictures to your sagacity and hope for your help in identifying the name, reference, model and production dates of the portrayed watches? I would be grateful for any form of information you may have. These are all watches that were bought by my father at one or other time without ever thinking about the word collection for his real interests lied elsewhere... that is off course not to say that he did not appreciate them.

I believe 2 or 3 of these watches to date from the 70's and then there is an older one, of which I attach pictures of the dial, case, and movement. I do not know whether that last watch is genuine. Anyways, I am posting these pictures bona fide and naturally in the hope that it is genuine.
In advance, thank you.

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?

Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?
Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?
Right as Rain
01/28/2010 - 01:37
As far as the vintage rectangular watch goes, it is the real thing .  Early 1940's steel case with a 17 jewel tonneau movement which has had some of it's gilt lettering rubbed off.  Here is one with full markings:
Re: Right as Rain
01/29/2010 - 21:23
Dear tick-talk, Thank you for posting a picture of rectangular movement very similar to the one of my watch. I am not sure whether the markings displayed in lower right corner of your picture have rubbed off. I tend to think that they were ever there on mine. Thank you also for placing the watch and movement on a time line. Regards Ztirul
You'll have to judge...
01/30/2010 - 20:21
You will note the serial numbers are extremely close between these two movements (418707 vs 418714) but there appears to be a difference in the jewel mount of the lower plate.  In fact, yours doesn't have a jewel in this position, so I think you are right that the lettering may not have appeared on your model.
Re: Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?
01/28/2010 - 01:47
Hello Ztirual, Your lovely rectangular watch reminds me of a watch (lot 104) sold by Antiquorum on the 3rd of april, 2005 for the 250th anniversary of the brand. it bears the number movement No. 416624 with case No. 259146. It was made in 1935. All those indications are very close to yours. Kind regards, Berny
Good find Berny
01/29/2010 - 03:46
The dial is nearly identical
Re: Re: Can you help me gather information about these 4 VC watches?
01/29/2010 - 21:34
Dear Berny, Nice to read you here. Thank you for the compliment and to pointing to what seems to be a very interesting comparison. Sorry, I say seems to, for having visited Antiquorum's internet catalogue, I read an interesting brief description of a similar watch but the resolution of the accompanying picture is so poor that it can't really see what the watch looks like. Do you have a hard copy of Antiquorum's catalogue? In which case, may I beg you to post a picture of it or pm it to me? Warm regards Ztirual
welcome to the Lounge! If you give me the case and movement
01/28/2010 - 11:11
numbers of each watch I will find you the date of production.
Thank you for your offer
01/29/2010 - 21:40
Thank you for your kind offer, Alex. I will do so one day, when I have the watch and help at hand for I'm terrified opening the case of some of them all by myself. Best regards Ztirual
Very nice collection, and welcome to the Lounge!
01/29/2010 - 04:29
The round, stainless steel watch has some similarities to mine from 1975.   Is yours very thin as well? (it appears to be).   If it is a manual wind, it's probably a cal 1003 - the thinnest manual wind movement ever made and truly a work of art, if it is an automatice movement, then probably a cal 1120.  Mine is an ultra-thin, automatic, with cal. 1120 - one of the most beautiful and well engineered movements ever made.   BR, Dan
Re: Very nice collection, and welcome to the Lounge!
01/29/2010 - 21:09
Dear Dan, Thank you for the compliment. Yes, my watch is also very thin, maybe as thin or even thinier than your beautiful watch. Here are two more pictures of that same watch, one taken from above and another one showing the case back. As you can see the winding crown is tiny, recessed and just thinner than the case. Thank you for the information regarding the manual movement. Good week-end. Ztirual
Re: Re: Very nice collection, and welcome to the Lounge!
01/30/2010 - 19:36
Ah lovely watches. Thank you for sharing :)