Did anyone notice this?

Or better yet, did someone here obtain this watch on fleabay?  As you can tell, it wasn't me crying; trying to be cute I was waiting to put in an offer and someone else scooped it up yes.

Did anyone notice this?

Did anyone notice this?

Aside from being an unusual silver-cased Chronometre Royal with original box and papers, this piece was interesting for its use of the alternative 1908 trademark "Royal Chronometer" on the dial, which was to become more common later with wrist watches.

Did anyone notice this?

Did anyone notice this?

Congratulations to the new owner and I hope we see it here soon heart
I saw it my friend, but didn't do anything about it.
03/29/2014 - 03:30
As I already have a restored CR pocket watch. Congrats to the new owner of this silver one. BR, Dan
Yes, the CR line was wide and varied
03/29/2014 - 18:36
so the question is, where to stop!  I have the silver-cased CR deck watch, and bronze-cased CR desk watch, but nothing in gold like your beautiful piece heart.  This one is high on the lust-meter: gold cased Observatory-rated Chronometre Royal pocket watch!
Definitely lust-worthy!
03/30/2014 - 12:49
Too many beauties...not enough funds!  frown
So there are good stuff on fleabay too...
03/29/2014 - 04:49
Just that we need to be as knowledgeable as Dean to know whether it is dodgy or genuine. The vintage world is a tricky one and I still dare not venture there although I would love to have a nice VC vintage pocket watch at some point. There are so charming, old school charm. Thanks for sharing this Dean. Am sure the new owner will be very happy with this gem. Cheers Robin
Someday Robin
03/29/2014 - 18:38
you will take the plunge into pocket watches, I'm sure yes
Now that is a happy buyer! Dean how could you let this one go?! :-(
03/29/2014 - 09:47
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Re: Dean how could you let this one go?! :-(
03/29/2014 - 18:20
A question I ask myself too, Alex sad.  I like sooo many of these interesting pieces but need to exercise some control!
For me the interesting part of this particular ......
03/29/2014 - 13:27
watch is the silver case. There are not many CR out there from the early years (1907 -1911) made in silver. This one must be from late 1911 or early 1912.  It is definitely a bonus that the certificate and the box are included: that is rarely seen. I did, like Dan, let it pass because I have my own little CR treasure in silver from 1910 with a handcarved case, guilloche dial, a Guillaume balance and a movement double signed with serial numbers as you so kindly mentioned to me, Dean, when I showed it here at THL. I have added some photos because some of you might find it interesting to see another CR in a silver case. The photos were taken by the seller, “wagener-Gold”.                                                      Thanks Dean for taking the time to present the watch here and congratulations to the new owner. Cheers Kent
A stunning piece, the case engraving is extremely original, the
03/29/2014 - 17:45
Guillochage is interesting also and the movement is pristine
Kent, have you got the Bulletin yet?
03/29/2014 - 18:29
The Observatory Bulletin would be a wonderful addition to your stunning watch heart.  It would also reveal if the piece has a Guillaume or Crausaz balance (I think the latter but could be either at that date) and who the regleur was!  Perhaps even a prize winner.... Further on that note, the Extract from the Archives would also be worthwhile to obtain as it will give you the exact  year of completion and identify the specific calibre used.  If the calibre has "AB" notation, it signifies "Avec Bulletin".
Alas, no news since we last communicated about the subject in mention.
03/30/2014 - 11:18
This is what B. Pernier wrote to me:   Your request for watch contest record of chronometer Vacheron Constantin no 353933   "Further your e-mail of 31 August 2012 concerning the chronometers mentioned above does not appear in our contest record archives. Therefore this chronometers did not participate in the contest organised in our Observatory."   I do hope that my balance is a Guillaume balance since that was the reason for me buying this watch. However you are making me a bit nervous with talking about this Crausaz balance.     In the archives at VC they have no mentioning of that the watch has participated in any competion so no help there.    I will get a certificate from VC I should have done that a long time ago.   I wish you a pleasnat sunday. Kent 
No worry, Kent
03/30/2014 - 23:36
just means some discerning patron specified a chronometer-grade movement for your watch.  I might suspect an American order in that case, as that market was more concerned with precision timekeepers.  Guillaume or Crausaz; neither is preferred over the other during this period IMHO...refer to my post for a more detailed explanation of the two: Investigating an Observatory Chronometre.  If you learn the piece was a special-order, I'd greatly appreciate hearing this and any additional details the archives reveal, such as the retailer.
I was around your article before you recommend it.
04/01/2014 - 02:11
smiley. Immediately after you mentioned the Crausaz balance I began researching and your article was the first one to pop up on the screen. As always it is a impressive job you are doing and have done. However regarding my watch. I'm the "discerning praton" the seller never mentioned a Guillaume balance. I still believe and hope that it is a Guillaume balance othervise I will have to buy myself one more pocketwatch since the Guillaume balance is a balance I want to have in my collection. The watch was bought in Germany and on the innercase is engraved as normal Vacheron & Constantin Geneve and W. Bleck Heidelberg. The seller believed that W. Bleck Heidelberg was the "Händlergravur" dealer engraving. I have not been able to find that name for a watch shop in Heidelberg or any mentioning of that there has been a dealer by that name. I will of course keep you informed if any news should occur.   Cheers Kent 
OK Kent, hope it turns out
04/01/2014 - 04:03
to be just what you want yes.  Thank-you for sharing the retailer's name.  I wonder if they ever advertised in journals of the period.  FWIW, I ran the movement number through a database of other Observatory results including Neuchatel, Kew/Teddington and more, but nothing came up there, either.  Of course, more prolific chronometer makers with Guillaume's Balancier Integral are available for your consideration should you wish to stray from the fold, such as U. Nardin.
I'm impressed,
04/01/2014 - 11:04
that you have access to those databases (Observatory results including Neuchatel, Kew/Teddington). Thanks for taking the time to check out the numbers. I'm only collecting Vacheron Constantin watches so Ulysses Nardin is not an option. I will submit the numbers to VC and get a certificate. I do not have high hopes concerning more information since as far as I remember Alex already asked the Heritage Department about my watch. However I might be suprised.   Best wishes Kent
Re: Did anyone notice this?
04/04/2014 - 02:02
Mmmm, delicious...