Did V&C Inspire Genta?

We all know the history of Genta's 1972 breakthrough design for Audemars Piguet. The octagonal bezeled Royal Oak spawned a whole genus of similar-looking sport watches by Genta, including the Nautilus, 222, "Jumbo" Ingenieur and Laureato.

But was Genta inspired by this one-of-a-kind Vacheron & Constantin 1933 model which featured a waterproof screw-back, flat-sided tonneau case and decagonal screwed bezel?

Did V&C Inspire Genta?
09/13/2008 - 22:53
I think Genta might be related to this guy; never thought much of his work either.
Warhol Was a WIS
09/14/2008 - 02:31
Andy Warhol was an avid watch collector and designed the avant garde Times/5 watch for Movado.  This cool piece was a five link bracelet watch, each link with individual movement and each dial with a different photo of New York street life.  In fact, the finished design was found in his apartment after this death in 1987.  Movado went on to produce only 250 pieces...try to find one now!   Sotheby's auctioned his collection of some 300 watches in 1988.  Vacheron items included a cal. 1019 automatic, a 1950's 17 jewel manual winder, a 1930's open face very thin pocket watch and another from 1945, an unusual 1960's 18 jewel white gold wristwatch on a wide link bracelet, one of our favorite teardrop lug models, a very nice and rare 1920's rectangular curved watch with art deco numerals, a desirable day-date calendar with corne de vache lugs, an unusual Vacheron purse watch circa 1935 with sweet champleve geometric designs on the 18k case...and one or two more!! It seems, however, his favorite brand was Rolex judging from the majority of pieces.
Re: Did V&C Inspire Genta?
09/14/2008 - 01:31

I see a lot of similarity in the watch case of my IWC Ingenieur and my VC Overseas Chrono posted here. Now seeing the VC watch posted from 1933 I am convinced even more. Thanks for sharing this very interesting point.    Best regards, Matt

great find, here's the steel version which was probably one of VCs 1st
09/14/2008 - 11:33
steel watches. This watch from 1933 certainly inspired by Genta for creating the 222 which in turn inspired the VC designers in creating the Overseas in 1996. Here's a link to a past discussion on this model: click here to see the post PS: As surprising as it may seem the Laureato was not designed by genta but by Macaluso!!
Great post Alex
09/14/2008 - 19:51
and the steel version confirms it's sporting intentions even more! I'd say there is a strong nautical feeling to the overall design - a real dreadnought Thanks for the name of GP's Laureato designer...or should I say copyist? I owned a Laureato but gave it up in trade although I'm still fond of the model. The cal. 3100 movement was a bit delicate (and the bracelet was a hair-puller) so I'm very impressed with VC's tuning for the Overseas versions 'cause we know they are reliable! PS...I sent an email to Antiquorum in Geneve for that 1994 price list. If there is interest, and I get a reply, I can post it here.
Genta was inspired by a vintage VC to create the Royal Oak? a bomb in
09/14/2008 - 15:30
the industry!!!!!
Pretty interesting fact!
09/15/2008 - 13:16
It's amazing -  I do learn something on the HL every day Thanks for the info
Too much Genta?
09/17/2008 - 01:27
Here's a page from Sept 1999 Antiquorum auction full of octagonal Genta's! He really went "hog-wild" in the 90's with this design. There's actually another page of these designs as well, but one is enough Joseph PS: The octagonal shape watch at VC made its appearance around 1910 in some pocket watches and the shape persisted although uncommonly through the 1920's. In terms of a wrist watch the first VC octagonal shaped watch appeared in 1921 and was quite uncommon after that. There was even the odd hexagonal case. Its hard to know where Genta's "inspiration" came from. maybe it was a pocket watch, maybe it was de novo.