eBay Fakes

Here is another example eBay Fakes  I know many people just Google onto this site while looking for info on VC, and perhaps those considering this junk might find our warnings.  Even when I report these fakes to eBay they often go on to sell anyway eBay Fakes

eBay Fakes

eBay Fakes
Re: eBay Fakes
11/02/2008 - 21:12
Some of those are so obvious... I saw one with "Genève" spelt "Genèva" !!!
the worst is the guy who buys these $200 fakes then comes here on
11/02/2008 - 22:37
the Lounge and says that he inherited a watch and how much its worth!
What, you mean that I shouldn't feel bad that I don't have...
11/02/2008 - 23:29
a long lost uncle who bequeathed me his treasured watch????      Hmmm, when I pass away, I wonder if any of my watches will make it into one of those infamous Hour Lounge posts...   Duncan
Re: eBay Fakes
11/03/2008 - 00:12
1. It is useless to try and talk to eBay. They don't listen and will allow the most egregious malfeasance to pass. So despite your good intentions, Dean, don't waste your time. I had someone steal photos of one of my watches and list the watch on eBay as his own and in fact sell it for several thousand dollars. Do you think eBay listened to me? Yeah during flying pig season!! 2. Fortunately, not all listings are fakes and there are plenty of reputable people (including myself) and dealers who use eBay. Just know the seller and do your homework. 3. Perhaps there should be a section here, wherein people can submit photos and descriptions of their desired purchases and seek comments from the cognoscenti. It would a good things for those entering the "watch owning" world, VC in general and for the Lounge as well. There are many people who visit this site silently looking for advice in an indirect way. And perhaps its a way to give something back. There is an enormous amount of expertise here. Just my 2 cents Joseph
a fake going all the way to make a carbon dial and a machine engrave
11/03/2008 - 11:30
on the back, though badly done. i guess it is a warning for brand names to look within, in terms of finishing and movement refinement. surviving on aesthetics and marketing hype wouldn't do, although looks still count. i have seen many replicas in china, i should say some are pretty well done externally, though with trained eyes, we can still find some flaws, however, they are housed with inferior and poorly finished movements. that's what separate the men from the boys.
actually, they are getting better every day
11/03/2008 - 13:12
I know some of them are using actual ETA movements, or copies of Valjoux 7750.  On the exterior, some are so well done that apart from looking at the finish of the movement, it is impossible to tell apart from the real thing. I am talking here not about the PP, VC, Lange and other top brands, but rather the Panerai, Hublot, IWCs, Rolex, etc.  I have never seen one in the flesh, but the pictures on the net are impressive.  As I said previously I have no problem with someone wanting to pay $100 for a fake watch, as long as he knows what he's paying for. But it's getting scary when it is getting harder and harder to tell the fakes from the real, and risking paying "real prices" for fake watches. At the same time, if the end product of the fake manufacturer is so close to the real thing - at a minimal fraction of the "real price", it does make you wonder about what one is actually paying for when buying a real watch. 
With this happening, it should be a reminder to all...
11/03/2008 - 13:19
that the best place to buy is from the authorized dealers. Remember, if the deal sounds too good to be true, then it probably is... cheers, Duncan
AD not source for vintage though. nt
11/03/2008 - 19:41
nt
Very good point. Vintage is a much trickier market. (nt)
11/04/2008 - 01:00
VC
How about a gallery of fakes? nt
11/03/2008 - 18:03
nt
Another fake for Rogues Gallery
11/15/2008 - 19:11
This one even comes with fake papers!