Genta and the 2215 Chronometer Royal?

I recently spied an internet dealer's description of the Ref. 2215 Chronometer Royal as having been designed by Gerald Genta.  We've already had the myth that Genta penned the 222 debunked and normally I would write this off as more misleading hype but the fellow is otherwise reliable.  So Alex, is it true?  Did GG have anything to do with the ugliest CR of all time?

Genta and the 2215 Chronometer Royal?
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Just goes to show how tastes vary...
02/12/2011 - 09:30
...I was looking through Alex' great VC sport watch retrospective article last night, saw this watch, and thought "hmm -- that's not so bad!" Still might not measure up to the rest of the CR line, but I didn't think that it was so awful... Best, GaryG
Audemars had a similar model! 7o designs are coming back and after the
02/12/2011 - 11:12
Heuer Monaco Autavia Hamilton will be presenting at Basel a reedition of the Pan Europe (scan taken from the excellent www.blog.perpetuelle.com) here's the rectangular AP Royal Oak Dean I'll check to see who designed the CR
Beauty is only skin deep...
02/12/2011 - 18:22
but ugliness goes right to the bone!  Gary, I admit to some mischief in making that statement  because I don't "mind" the design other than the fact that it was un-Vacheron to be so derivative of the times.  Where I stand firm is on the calibre 1096 movement inside...an ugly movement when JLC made it and not at all improved even though VC replaced the plastic parts and added a gold rotor.  Thankfully, it had a short lifespan.
Love that saying
02/13/2011 - 04:58
And it reminded me of another golden oldie, apropos of nothing and referring to no one on THL: "ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever!" Best, GaryG
I've actually given consideration to this watch before
02/12/2011 - 13:02
I've been thinking about a CR in white metal for almost a year now in order to complete my existing collection of YG, RG, both with sub-seconds.  A white metal CR with center seconds would be the perfect complement.  Then the details/reality started to enter into the picture: Ref. 6694 is a model that didn't really appeal to me at first, and while it has grown on me, still doesn't appeal to me enough aesthetically (I love the cal 1072/1, which led me to my ref. 6782 Thunderbird....thanks Dean , which is sort of my Batman alternative) The Pt. CR 1907 is really nice , a little large and thick, but more importantly, out of my price range for a time only watch .  (This led me a little of the VC trail and I've been looking at the Pt. Richard Lange as a CR substitute.) The 1990s ref. 47022 in WG is really hard to find, I understand it was very popular in Japan but haven't seen any available in the secondary markets.  (This has led me way off the VC trail and looking at a couple of time only Grand Seikos.) Then there is the ref. 2215 that is the topic of this post...it's aesthetic is OK but not my favorite.  But it also led me to think, "when would I wear this watch instead of my Gen. 1 OS chronometer?" Through these mental excersises, and some unsuccessful bids/offers made, I realized just yesterday that the OS Chronometer meets all the things that I'm looking for and I already have it!  Its a white metal, the only chronometer I know of that that VC has made in modern times that is not part of the CR family (hey, I was willing to go as far as Lange and Seiko for CR substitutes), and it is truly a complementary piece to my other CRs in terms of usage...they never compete for the same wrist time/occasion. I guess its true that one looks fonder at things that one doesn't have, and that things often come back around in a circle. BR, Dan (my small tribute to VC's Chronometer history)
you missed 2 modern post Overseas chronometers not from CR family, the
02/12/2011 - 16:32
Malte Dual Time Regulator and the Malte Big Date I didn't like the Malte Big Date when it first came out but looking at the picture right now I find it rather attractive!
Thanks Alex, the Malte Big Date looks Dali-esque to me,
02/12/2011 - 16:48
With the way the arabic numbers change in size, . You are right, I didn't even think about the 2 Malte chronometers that you correctly mentioned.  The DTR is a little to busy for me, though I do like the concept behind a Regulator's seperation of the hour, minute and seconds hands - very pure and functional. But do you know what the danger of feeling comfortable with the OS Chronometer is?  Today, my thoughts have started wandering into the QDI and thinking about an all Ti, date-only, version.  It would be my only dark watch and I've been playing with the online configurator to see how the transparent and solid dials look...yes, I've printed them out on a color printer as well!   As, I've said before, I like the solid dial...but now the transparent one is looking really interesting to me too, . Best Regards, Dan
WOW Dan! I used to have the all palladium QDI with date and it was
02/12/2011 - 17:23
amazing, the open dial version is just as legible as the full dial but you can also oogle one the Geneva waves on the top plate of the movemet. The version you're looking at is the version Duncan owned, have a look at the Recommended Threads section for his review. As you know by now, the QDI is my favorite VC
Re: Thanks Alex, the Malte Big Date looks Dali-esque to me,
02/13/2011 - 17:41
Time changes, passion remains the same. We can age, but some loyalty won't, agree Gentlemen? :)
Agreed KL! Good to see you, its been awhile, :-) (nt)
02/14/2011 - 08:28
v&c
Back in '55
02/12/2011 - 18:52
Some think that this is Gerald Genta's best design.  Here is an early one with a cal. 138 bumper movement.  This watch is larger than the later models with micro-rotor movement - - maybe 36mm without crown. Wish I had a '55 DeSoto convertible to go with the the watch.  Robert
Let there be Rock...
02/15/2011 - 14:53
your tite reminded me of an old AC/DC  song whch began like this:In the beginning Back in nineteen fifty five Man didn't know 'bout a rock 'n' roll show Fantastic case on this watch