Help Choose between Jubilee 1755 or Patrimony 31 Day Retrograde

Help Choose between Jubilee 1755 or Patrimony 31 Day Retrograde Greetings, I am fairly new to watch collecting and have already been enamored by VC. I have an Overseas Dual Time and an incoming Royal Eagle. Also have some other JLC's...Duomètre, Reverso, AMVOX. 

I am really drawn to both the Jubilee 1755 and the Patrimony 31 day Retrograde (older model with day dial). Obviously the Jubilee is quite a bit more and I am wondering if it is worth the extra $. They are also very difficult to find. 

Any experience and advice would be appreciatedHelp Choose between Jubilee 1755 or Patrimony 31 Day Retrograde

The Jubilee 1755 for me. Obviously the best would be to
07/15/2014 - 09:41

try both on to see which one gives you the biigest smile but if choice were mine the Jubilee 1755 would be a no brainer for the following:

- VC's first modern inhouse automatic calibre

- Overall design (the lugs are to die for!)

- larger case

- limited edition

- historical significance as it was launches specially for the brand's 250th anniversary

- 10 years down the road it still looks as good


One of the rare watches in my collection I do not think I will ever sell


The Jubilee 1755 for me. Obviously the best would be to



Re: The Jubilee 1755 for me. Obviously the best would be to
07/15/2014 - 15:33

The rose gold version is very beautiful, Alex!

I can understand your feelings completely.


Alex nailed it.....
07/15/2014 - 16:04

and that's not to say that the Retrograding Calendar watch isn't a great and desireable timepiece, but the Jubile 1755 is one of Vacheron Constantin's most important pieces of the modern era.



remember whan it first came out and we thought it felt like a lingot on the wrist! Now the
07/15/2014 - 16:18

watch seems "normal" sized!

Re: The Jubilee 1755 for me. Obviously the best would be to
07/15/2014 - 16:10

Thank you Alex, I did read one of your older threads on the Jubilee 1755, which got me even more excited about this edition.  I would love to try both on but these pieces are so difficult to find. 

I guess I knew in the back of my mind that the Jubilee carried some of these very special qualities which make if so unique. The two challenges are finding one available and of course the price differential as the Jubilee is 2-3 times more than the Patrimony 31 day Retrograde. 

There is a Jubilee for sale in Taiwan but has no papers/box, which is a downside for me. Also I don't know if it is wise buying such a precious piece without being able to view it or inspect it? I asked them about any history of service work and they had no clue. 

best would be to find a model with box which is a collectable piece all
07/15/2014 - 16:21

to its self



Having owned both pieces in PT (a 247 version of the Retrograde) I have to say Jubilee hands down...
07/15/2014 - 09:55

Happy hunting!

Re: Help Choose between Jubilee 1755 or Patrimony 31 Day Retrograde
07/15/2014 - 12:27

I too would choose the Jubilee 1755.

I have owned the Retrograde in WG but sold it. I still own the Jubilee in PT.

It is a stunning watch! Alex ans sccinctly outlined the reasons. The guillochéed dial is beautiful, the dial layout is very organized. The case and movement are spectacular.

It is a real joy to wear and also just to look at and admire.

There is no debate in my mind

I will add some spice
07/15/2014 - 13:38

I own the platinum black dial retrograde piece. I love th lugs, the guilloche on black dial, and the real reason I got the watch, as I wanted a retrograde date for something very different. You have to spend a lot mor money with th other brand for a retrograde date and I don't feel the charm is as nice as this VC


that being said, if someone were to hand me a platinum jubilee, I would gladly add that one too!

good luck on your selection


I will add some spice

cool shot Joe!
07/15/2014 - 13:53
Re: I will add some spice
07/15/2014 - 16:13

Gorgeous time piece!

i love the simple, pure functionality of the day dial and the uniqueness of the retrograde date. Can you tell me what years this particular design was produced? I much prefer this design over the current design which lays out the days in retrograde fashion. Thanks and more photos!

I would say go for the Jubilee. It is a rare piece and special as it
07/15/2014 - 18:56

was launched for the VC's 250th anniversary celebrations. Also, it debuted VC's first in-house automatic. And not to mention it is a beautiful timepiece and hits all the right buttons - beautiful dial; in-house movement, transparent caseback, Hallmark of Geneva, and a limited numbered edition. It is an all time timeless classic.

Both timepieces are remarkable....
07/15/2014 - 20:14

Thanks for sharing your dilemma.

Both timepieces are remarkable but I would pick the Jubilee 1755 due to its beautiful design, in house movement and its celebration of Vacheron Constantin's 250 years of Haute Horlogerie.

Let me know your decision.

Ugh... I came in to offer my opinion and changes my mind while reading - twice!
07/15/2014 - 21:21

Anyway, I have always loved the retrograde.  I like the current model (personally) even more than the previous reference.  I came in here to tell you to get that one, since it is very unique in its "alternate display" sort of way...

Then I read Alex's passionate and well reasoned argument for the Jubilee and thought... well, from a collector's standpoint, he makes a lot of good points.  And then more people supported him...

Then... I saw Joe's piece... and wow... it reminded me of the real reason to collect - at least for me.  So I changed my mind again.

Rather than offer a suggestion for which to get, I will offer an approach.  I would bet that when you look at these, at least one takes your breath away - makes your heart skip a beat.  Get that one.  I think I know which it would be for me, but that may be different for you.

If they both have this effect on you, then there is a lot of good data in this thread.  I don't think you can go wrong.  Good luck!

The Collector in me says Jubilee
07/16/2014 - 02:42

Everything about the Jubilee speaks to my head - just as everybody else had described.

But the retrograde speaks to my heart, I just love the look of the dial and retrograde hand.

The Collector in me says Jubilee

Re: The Collector in me says Jubilee
08/23/2014 - 16:52

Dan I have to agree with you...there is something about the 47245 that exudes vintage heritage in the look and feel of it. 

I am close to pulling the trigger on the 31 day retrograde. I also Ike the 247, but impossible to find. 

keep us posted
08/24/2014 - 13:21