Help identifying a Watch

Hello all members,

I am interested in this watch.

Can someone help me please to confirm it is authentic and it is not a Franken.

The case number is 278333, followed by 1-34, the movement number seems to be 461208

The case is stainless steel, and the dial is not perfect but seems very good.

Any help is much appreciated 


João Santos

That looks like a real gem
05/07/2016 - 15:34

I cannot wait to see what they come up with based on the case and movement numbers. And in stainless steel too! And that movement. Wow. Great piece. Thank you for sharing. 

Re: Help identifying a Watch
05/07/2016 - 16:16

Hi,  I know there was a Ref. 35 with a cal. 453 movement in it that dates from the 1940s.  The case number for that watch is 297xxx.

I would not be surprised if the case marking indicates a Ref. 34.  (Though I do not understand the "1-34")

Looking forward to seeing what a serial number check will uncover.

I see a "1" and a "34" on the case, in the movement picture
05/07/2016 - 16:26

The "1" is near the upper left lug, and the "34" is near the lower left lug.  So the case and case back match.  :-)

Stainless steel vintage
05/07/2016 - 16:40

World War II era is a good bet. 

Re: Help identifying a Watch
05/07/2016 - 22:16


Judging from the case and movement numbers, the case was made earlier than the movement, probably about 1943-44 (so Jamie is right in that respect).

However, the movement is from a bit later in the 1940's, closer to 1948.

It was not that unusual to find cases and movements made in different years, in fact quite common.

But it does mean the watch was likely completed around 148-49.

Just my 2 cents-worth guess.

Very lovely dial with the applied Roman numerals!


Re: Help identifying a Watch
05/09/2016 - 05:41

It's really beautiful calibre with swan neck regulator!



Re: Re: Help identifying a Watch
05/17/2016 - 16:12

Hello All,

Thanks for all your comments.

I just received the watch, and it seems much more yellow gold than the previous pictures I posted

I confirm that the case back and the case have the 1-34 mark, so it seems they match.

Also the movement is a V453 with serial number 461208

Case number is 278333.

Does any of you knows if V&C used to do this kind of watches, gold dial and case in stainless steel.

Any help is much appreciated.


João Santos

ref 4073 from 1946
05/17/2016 - 17:51


Re: ref 4073 from 1946
05/17/2016 - 18:39


Thanks for the information.