The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date

The influence of the bespoke ateliers is being felt on the regular production models: you want the Patromony Automatic model but don't like the cut out for the date? Well Vacheron Cosntantin has answered your request with the launch of the new Patrimony Automatic without date ref 86180.

This model is being pre-launched in Switzerland, Italy, Germany, Japan and via the boutique in Moscow. It will be available worldwide by April 2008.

The Patrimony Automatic without date houses the automatic in house caliber 2460 SC (bearing the Geneva seal) and visible through its saphire case back.

The case measures 40mm and is 8.31mm thick. It is available in white and rose gold.

I find it interesting that even for its most simple line of watches Vacheron Constantin wishes to have a wide offer (manual wind, automatic with date, automatic without date) as to answer the needs and tastes of all!

The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date

The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date

The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date

The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date

06/13/2007 - 15:37
06/13/2007 - 20:25
06/14/2007 - 20:38
Re: The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date
06/13/2007 - 13:43

Thanks Alex

I actually like this one better than with date

It is just refreshingly simple

The question now is whether VC will come out with a boutique model?

This one is very tempting indeed


I'm not a fan of the dial cut out either. As for a Boutique edition
06/13/2007 - 13:48

I doubt one will be available in the short / medium term as the watch is not available in all markets yet.

Ketchup !
06/13/2007 - 15:37

It seems like Vacheron & Constantin been shaking that bottle for years.

And suddenly the year 2007, everything comes.

The whole botle !

This is the ultimate "ketchup effect" !

Shake and shake and shake and suddenly the whole plate is full

As a true aficionado, this year in all my, and they are not few, sorry to say,

Vacheron & Constantin is outdoing them selves !

Torres and Bernaz, It couldn't be better !

This is truly unbelievable !

But my choice is made

I have several, as you could guess, automatic watches,

but nothing beats the nearly sensual feeling to wind a watch



Unlike many brands who have the clients adapt to the offer VC actually
06/13/2007 - 17:05

proposes 3 different variations of the same model. Bravo to the barnd, just shows that they are really listening to their clients.

At last, the secret is out...
06/13/2007 - 17:55

I wasn't sure how long I could keep my mouth shut.  Thanks Alex. 

I agree with everyone that VC has really outdone itself this time.  We're not talking of coming out with a grand complication that no one can afford.  This is about providing simple and elegant versions of their basic line.  Anyone looking for a simple watch should be able to find one version to their liking (not to mention the traditionelle automatic too).

Although, the date window in the Contemporaine automatic may not be for everyone, I think VC did a good job (as good as anyone can).  What is even better is that now VC comes out with a date-less automatic.  Woah!! Mama!  (Coming out with a boutique version should be the icing on the cake)

I tried on both the manual wind and the automatic (with date, of course) and found out that both were really nice.  The hand wound was nice if you like thin watches (less expensive too), while the automatic had a very proportioned look to it (plus you can enjoy the watch from both sides with its exhibition caseback). 

Just like doc, I might go for the killer boutique version of the hand winding Contemporaine (would like to see photos).  Unfortunately, that would mean that there won't be cash registers ringing for my friends at VC Japan and my favorite ADs though.

Bravo VC! 


I just had to release you of your misery :-) Start saving up since
06/13/2007 - 18:29

very soon I'll also be releasing info on a ultra limited (yet affordable) watch

Thanks for the tease....Ultra limited yet affordable?
06/13/2007 - 19:54

I will be anticipating to see what VC has up its sleeve (and perhaps up mine also?).


Re: I just had to release you of your misery :-) Start saving up since
06/14/2007 - 03:29

Ahh...from one misery to the next.  Last time I was dying to spill the beans on this three-hand auto, now I am dying to know about the ultra limited (yet affordable) watch you are teasing us about!  Ohh, the agony!

Well, I guess the real agony is the fact that I may not be ready with the dough in time grab one.

Looking forward to that next exclusive report!



I've been waiting for years...
06/13/2007 - 20:25
for VC to come out with a basic three hand automatic, something harking back to the good old days of the 50's and 60's. Bill
Patrimony without date,
06/14/2007 - 13:28

Is in my opinion, one the absolute most perfect watches made,

by Vacheron&Constantin, which of course means, by anyone

The whole composition :

The case so thin, the crown not countersiked, but instead prominent sticks out,

the lugs so simple and clean, and the dial, ahh, so clean !

I only wished it would be a little bit smaller,

you Bill, will not have problems with it on your wrist,


but on my thin wrist it is really to big.

But I can't stand not getting a Boutique

My heart beats faster when I see it !

Got to have it !



All I need to do is see it in person...
06/14/2007 - 18:18
Which alas appears to be a long time in coming. Bill
Re: Thanks for a "real" exclusive>>
06/14/2007 - 02:19
now the problem is to pick the gold you like the best--always tough. This is going to be my new dress watch, simply stunning! Best to all, Tim
This just keeps getting better and better!
06/14/2007 - 09:01

Thanks for the heads up Alex. To my eyes, this version without the date is a winner for me! The PG version looks really tempting. Time to start saving...



Re: The Hour Lounge exclusive: The Patrimony Automatic without date
06/14/2007 - 12:39

Very Elegant.

are there other brands who actually have such a diverse offer of
06/14/2007 - 14:11

"simple" watches?

I prefer the date model because I find it useful but this model is quite beautiful too :-) 

not as far as I know (nt)
06/14/2007 - 17:07


LOVE this watch!
06/14/2007 - 20:38

This is exactly what I wanted...automatic, see-through case back, no-date w/ second hand.  Fantastic!

Only RG & WG are available? The last photo is not of YG?  Thank you.

yup last photo is of a RG watch the model doesn't exist in YG (yet) nt
06/14/2007 - 23:22


Re: yup last photo is of a RG watch the model doesn't exist in YG (yet) nt
06/15/2007 - 02:15

Great, I'm going color blind!. :-)

or is it love blinding you ? :-) (nt)
06/15/2007 - 14:03


06/16/2007 - 01:56

That must be it, because I woke up at 2:30 this morning thinking about this watch. :-)

you're in trouble!! because if you don't live in Italy, Japan, Germany
06/16/2007 - 11:05

Switzerland or Russia you'll need to wait almost a year for this watch...unless you make the trip

I used to live in Italy.
06/16/2007 - 12:22

So if I can find enough change under the couch cushions, I'll have an errand for my Italian friends. :-)

Also, and I don't know if this is OK on these forums, but will you please post the retail pricing for this watch when known?

Thank you so much, Alex.  Your stewardship of this forum truly encourages participation.

now THAT would be a fun trip :-) retail prices in
06/16/2007 - 14:46

euro is

WG: 13,260


The good news is that if you don't live in the EU you can get VAT refund of about 18%!

thanks for the compliments

Thank you for the prices, Alex.
06/19/2007 - 04:58

I appreciate it.

Re: LOVE this watch!
01/31/2015 - 22:52

Alex, sorry to resurrect an ancient thread but I also think this watch is fantastic. I am very surprised that it was discontinued so quickly since I think it does look better than the date version.

I guess it's not very likely that a similar looking version will be launched in the near future?