I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you

dear The Hour Loungers.

For me, VC is the ULMOST artistic high horological brand and to complete my collection, I would like to add a highly identified VC model.
What have you at our disposal from the current collection:
-        A rare historical case: TOLEDO 1952 model
I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
-        We are all in love with the engraved moon phase and the white gold version is to die for
-        An Annual Calendar is a very nice complication, usefull and not so much costly (compared to a Perpetual Calendar)
Then, I would present (separately) my DREAM watch:
 I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
A TOLEDO in WG with WG engraved moon phase and a slightly modified dial (the seven stars in WG instead of YG color, suppression of the word “AUTOMATIC”)

I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
Additionally, if the 1225 triple date calibre is nice, it should be changed by an Annual Calendar.

I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
I really appreciate if one of you could kindly try to photoshop these photos and realize the combination
Now, two questions:

How many “The Hour Loungers”  share my dream and want one?

How many “The Hour Lounge” clubers vote for this model as “The Hour Lounge” Model

Best regards to all of you, to Alex and to Vacheron Constantin.

05/31/2012 - 02:08
I'm with you on this one Liger...
05/30/2012 - 21:33
The design is an icon for VC, that's a given. Annual calendar and an engraved moonphase are a big YES for me with this piece. I always find it difficult to set the date.  Other than that, if you wanted to make it more affordable the case should be made of SS rather than gold or PT. Make it happen, Liger. You have my vote on this.
An engraved moon face...
05/30/2012 - 23:33
for this model is a super idea. Can I send mine in for retrofitting?  cheeky And I agree, Radek, it can be a real pain to change the dates but at least its not a perpetual so if you screw up you can just try again.  wink Regards, Joseph
I'm sure your ol' friend Dom would be more than happy to take another
05/31/2012 - 00:23
Order for his bespoke dept. ;-)))
+1 with Radek. I also would really like it in SS
05/31/2012 - 01:45
and a display back. Just too much beauty to hide! Best to all, Tim
Re: I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
05/30/2012 - 23:11
The Toledo WG is the next VC on my list. I really like your suggestions. I want to add a display back also. Yes, a lower price would be nice, but I just can't see this watch in SS. I see it as very elegant. The driver for me on this watch is the case. VC had a time and date version previously, which makes it less costly. I really liked the WG black dial. But the case is smaller and I like the current version size and look on the wrist. Thanks for the suggestions. But, I feel we are in the minority. I am worried VC will withdraw the watch before I get to ordering it! Best, Joe
Very tempting...
05/31/2012 - 02:08
An HL watch has been discussed often and yours is a great concept yes.  Steel or gold wouldn't make much difference in cost I'm sure, but a steel case would be very unusual therefore exclusive.  Whatever it may be, the HL watch MUST be special!! I don't mean to hijack your thread, but when I'm daydreaming of my ideal HL watch, it just might be a steel-cased version of this baby, with a "blue" numeral 12: As far as ease of production goes, I believe it was suggested earlier that the QdI would also provide an excellent platform for an HL watch, with customized engraving on the back and perhaps a unique dial design or color.  At some point we need to get serious about this project and perhaps submit concepts for a vote, with each ballot costing $1000, refundable or transferrable up to a deadline...then it happens!
Dean my friend I am in deep negotiations with management on
05/31/2012 - 10:57
a Club watch! When asked where he would like to die Einstein said "Switzerland...because everything happens 20 years later there" So don't hold your breath, nothing will happen within the next weeks :-)
That's great news! (nt)
05/31/2012 - 17:52
05/31/2012 - 21:37
What about reviving the original Chronometre Royal subscription scheme?  If the HL watch was ordered in sufficient numbers, and likely take a couple of years to complete the order, then a monthly subscription lottery would be a great idea IMHO.  To describe the process for those not familiar; everyone who wishes to participate must pay a monthly subscription to be included in a draw for one watch.  The one winner walks away with the piece, while those remaining must continue to pay the subscription for next month's draw.  Anyone who drops out or stops paying loses their investment.  This lottery continues until all watches are taken.  Obviously, the first person pays the least and the last person the most, but the value should be there for all based on exclusivity, while the financial burden is lessened due to the monthly installments.  At least we know it worked quite well in 1907 enlightened.
Purists AP LE
06/01/2012 - 01:07
I see Purists is offering a LE of ten AP Royal Oaks, priced at $50k+ in steel/tantalum.
not a good example. The Purists anniversary pieces have been
06/01/2012 - 10:56
nade in extremely limited pieces and still are not sold out a year after! The idea was fantastic but results are not there frown
the problem with the internet aficionados (including me) is that
06/01/2012 - 11:37
we look for discounts may it be because we are good clients and our AD gives a discount or we try to find a good deal on the net or buy second hand. These pieces are offered at full retail with no discount that's why they're still there nothing to do with the quality or desirability of the pieces, they're just aimed at the wrong crowd IMHO.
I glad I'm not the only one
06/01/2012 - 19:06
choking on that price surprise.  Regardless of how attractive it is, the appeal will be very limited as you suggest.  A run of a hundred or more would make more economic sense but to attract that participation I'm thinking the price-point would need to be around $20k.  This price would shape the scope of the project from the beginning.  I'm dying to know what you are considering Alex!
Promise to let you know as soon as the model is decided up on :-)
06/02/2012 - 01:12
Re: I glad I'm not the only one
06/02/2012 - 12:47
I agree. Only my view is that it would need to be a hundred pieces, at $10k. Gary
That's a good idea!
06/02/2012 - 14:55
Maybe a no-date overseas titanium/steel with the Hour Lounge logo instead of the Vespucci?  That would definately be within a 10k< range and would make it unique (since the regular overseas has a date). Building on Gary's suggestion, an un-numbered series of 100 would be perfect! Just some thoughts. But whatever you settle on, Alex, I am definately interesed in a Lounge watch. Best, Walid
Re: That's a good idea!
06/02/2012 - 15:50
You're supposed to go to $5k next!, with the opening line:- "Ten for that, you must be mad" G
Haha ok, 5k it is ;)
06/02/2012 - 18:31
but in all seriousness, I think USD10-15k as a cap would be ideal for a wider appeal. But then again, it all depends on how Alex gets along with the management.  Best, Walid
Re: Haha ok, 5k it is ;)
06/03/2012 - 02:22
Solidarity. Brother. And... Did I get to take you through 'Negotiation 101"?
Negotiation 101? not yet...
06/03/2012 - 02:36
But, as always, looking forward ;) Best, Walid
Re: I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
05/31/2012 - 10:10
that't the prettiest moon-phase-face I have seen - she's a sweetie
steel with non guilloche blue dial and engraved moon
05/31/2012 - 10:52
works for me... what about complications?
05/31/2012 - 12:58
in-house movement only: simple annual calendar with a current dial lay-out - no retrogradant (variation of 2460 QRA ) or a plain time only (4400)? or even better a date model fitted with 2460 QH (might be a seconds version) or 2450 SC? let's dream on...
an annual calendar would cost hell as it would be a new
05/31/2012 - 13:09
development. The existing annual calendar indicates the date functions via hands and you would need to have something developed with day and month indications at 12 with date indication via a central hand
point taken... we should settle for the current caliber then
05/31/2012 - 13:20
to save money and time. What's a 1225 cal. based on?
based on JLC 891 but now its cal 1225 with some modifications with
05/31/2012 - 13:26
regards to regulation, winding and some gearwork
thanks for the information, jefe! (nt)
05/31/2012 - 14:44
Re: steel with non guilloche blue dial and engraved moon
05/31/2012 - 23:10
I would prefer the lovely guilloched work that's there with a grey (ruthenium?) dial. Better contrast IMHO cheeky Joseph
Thanks to all of you for your positive comments
05/31/2012 - 21:22
As recommended by Alex, I have asked the department for special order to evaluate this combination either with a WG case either with the SS case. It could be a very very limited serie so right now we are two in the list: Radek, Liger. Alex could be the third one at the time being.  We are awaiting for the feasability (timing and cost). Best regards, Liger
Re: I have a DREAM and would like to share it with you
08/29/2015 - 21:56

I agree with you - but this is such a lovely timepiece that I am willing to look over this issue.  But if I could, I would drop in an annual / perpetually calendar – anyone make one?  One other change I would recommend would be a deployment buckle.  If the Quai de l'Ile retrograde annual calendar was similarly designed this would make a fantastic piece.