Interesting heirloom

Hi I'm new to this forum and I have been interested by the collective knowledge of your posters. I am trying to find information on a watch that was passed down from my grandfather to my father and then onto me. I have uploaded some photos of the watch that at some time appears to have been modified into a wrist watch. There are interesting inscriptions and serial numbers within the watch. I would be very interested in any thoughts people may have about the watch and how to research its origins.

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Re:Very Interesting heirloom!
09/05/2008 - 02:13
Greetings and welcome! Your watch clearly started out as a pocket watch and it looks as if someone has soldered or welded lugs to make it a wristwatch. I can't tell when that was done but  metallurgist might But judging from the movement design, case and movement numbers, I would say that it is from about 1915-1916. VC made many watches for retailers throughout the world. Sometimes they provided the case and sometimes the case was made locally. Yours, based on the inscription was made specially for Herz and Son (I think that's what it says), watchmaker, Vienna I The guilloche pattern on the dial is lovely and was commonly used from about 1910 to the late 1920's. The gold stamp looks like  0.585 which I believe would be 14k gold. You can get in touch with VC in Geneva for details of the manufacture. They probably even know the date of sale and who bought it. I don't know if you would have to send it in for that info. But if you wanted it restored, especially back to a pocket watch, you would need to send it to Geneva. I hope this infor helps a bit. Regards, Joseph
Beautiful old watch
09/05/2008 - 17:42
That is just an outstanding watch, very beautiful! I love the dial and hands. It comes from a time when mens wristwatches were just getting popular and most were being made from off the shelf parts. It is basically a modified ladies pocket watch, that has been specially made for someone. This could have been done by V&C or by a very good jeweler only shortly later. There are two six digit numbers, one inside the case back and one on the movement. You can use these to check with V&C to see if the movement and case are original to each other. I would guess it to be about 1915 when it was made, but it could have been sold much later.
Interesting engravings
09/05/2008 - 18:55
It appears that the retailer's name was engraved by a different hand - leading me to believe that the case came from the factory with a blank space for retailers to engrave their own names.
VC confirms what others have said. The watch was made in 1914 and
09/06/2008 - 10:45
sold to Austria (as seen on the engraving). I don't know if the engraving was added by VC or subsequently by the dealer. The watch was born as a pocket watch and transformed into wrist wear after. The dial is gorgeous, its a great heirloom to have!
Re: Interesting heirloom
09/06/2008 - 14:19
Thanks to everyone who has posted. I am intrigued to find out as much as I can about the watch so I will send the photos to V&C to try and get as much of its history as possible. I dont know whether I should have it restored to its original pocket watch form or keep it as a beautiful but querky wrist watch. By the way it keeps perfect time as well. Thanks again to all.
Thank you for this discovery steelerdoc...
09/06/2008 - 15:12
... really nice and interesting watch, and its history must be even more beautiful!!
What a great family treasure...
09/08/2008 - 17:28
thanks for sharing!
Re: Interesting heirloom
09/09/2008 - 06:00
This is a very nice piece of work. I did the same job with a Longines watch I found in crate at my grand parent's. This is very exciting, looking for the history of the watch. I found out that the movement was made in 1936 by Longines in Swiss then shipped as an ebauche to their US retailer. The retailer had a case made to house the calibre (14k gold too). That is it so far, from Longines old book. I have asked the name of the retailer to see if I can get more info and figure out how the watch from the US ended up in France... still waiting... Check the pics!  
that movement is amazing!!! (nt)
09/09/2008 - 12:51
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Re: that movement is amazing!!! (nt)
09/09/2008 - 20:01
yep, very nice and still in good shape. here are some closer view.
thanks (nt)
09/09/2008 - 20:16
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