Is the Maltese cross where it should be?

A few days ago I got in contact with a vintage VC wristwatch, movement caliber p454/5b, which was really in clean and very good conditions, looking very much alike with the writings and engravings on similar calibers I've seen online.  Unfortunately, I don't have pictures and didn't ask the owner to take a few myself. 

It had VC cross just between the 6 (o'clock) and the hands' axe. I've never seen this configuration in any of the VC watches while searching on line.
The cross is either on top of the name VC or not present at all, but to date never seen the cross this low. What is your opionin, could it be?


Thanks,
Elior
Very unusual...
06/07/2010 - 18:05
but not unknown.  This example with cal. 454 is from Antiquorum's Quarter Millennium sale, and I have seen one other with a round case.
what is the reference of the watch? Maybe its just a (poor) redial?
06/07/2010 - 18:08
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My thought, otherwise it would be very rare, please pics! nt
06/08/2010 - 10:32
vc
Re: Is the Maltese cross where it should be?
06/08/2010 - 11:28
The best match I could find on internet. The dial looks like in this picture but instead of stars are marks similar to position of 3 or 9. Seconds hand is exactly like the one in the picture. There is no Turler and in its plase is the cross. The crown was flat not as the one above. I tried to get some pictures in the past from my existing collection, but it is difficult to get good ones, especially with the flash.
typical of the 40s, I've never seen the Maltese Cross at 6 and makes
06/08/2010 - 12:04
me think of a redial. You should ask the seller for scans (including of movement)
I contacted the owner and
06/08/2010 - 14:16
the watch is sold...I spent too much time searching on the web for a genuine consulting site! :-(
The right decision was made
06/08/2010 - 15:12
While you may express frustration, NOT buying that watch was the right decision. here are several reasons why: 1. You did not have a complete understanding of the watch, nor the information to make an informed purchase decision. 2. It's a gamble buying things over the internet or from a independent watch retailer, UNLESS you know the product completely. 3. For me the red flags of internet watch auctions are:  not enough scans; casebacks not conforming in content; redials; movements with inserts/missing attaching screws or attaching screws covering up logos; missing parts to movements; numerous hand written engravings on case back, indicating many repairs; over-polished top side and corroded under lug/seam on case 4. Reputation of seller and pricing. Believe me, there WILL another opportunity for you to buy a fine VC watch - - educate yourself and keep looking; the hunt is part of the pleasure of ownership Robert
I agree with Rob, better wait for another to show up rather than
06/08/2010 - 16:25
buy one with dubious origins, even if you have to pay a bit more.
Although I regret for not being a little better prepared
06/08/2010 - 17:04
I thank you guys for all the knowledge and support in the process. Thanks, Elior
You are now one of us,
06/10/2010 - 15:40
the most exclusive club there are I'll as any other Vacheron Constantin aficionado will help you to get one of the finest watches ever made. I bought a watch made 1827, by the contacts I have, after collecting VC's for  over ten years, I got all 12 ( ! ) persons who had been involved in creating it. No other brand has all their watches in the arcives.... Vacheron Constantin is THE brand, all other are followers and younger. Doc
Excellent Summary Robert
06/08/2010 - 18:32
If I might add some words of wisdom from a long-time collector that the general rule when one decides to venture into a new field of collecting: they should buy nothing for six months while they study all available resources and internet sites to get a "feel" for the the market.