Military style dials...

This topic flares up occasionally, but I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on the rarely seen, seemingly original vintage V&C watches in steel cases with military style dials. I am not referring to pocket watches or deck chronometers, but normal sized wristwatches. I also understand that these were not actually issued to any military organization.

I have seen some images which suggest that such watches were produced by V&C (probably in the 1950's), albeit (presumably) in very small numbers.

Any insights will be appreciated.


Tony C.
here's a model from the 20s...
04/19/2009 - 10:58
albeit it doesn't answer your question    The model you are referring to is ref 4301 made in the mid 40s in steel, screwed case back and military style numerals using cal 454. The dials were mostly white with some rare models with black dials.
Thanks Alex...
04/19/2009 - 17:41
it is helpful to see an actual referenced model. If anyone has any other examples, please do post them! Regards, Tony C.
Military Dial Requirements
04/19/2009 - 18:18

While there are countless claims for "military dials", Alex's second example is the real thing. 1. Legible Arabic numbers, not roman numerals; oft luminesenced; hands clearly shaped and differentiated hours vs minutes 2. All hours enumerated;  3.Seconds done in "5's"  0-60 ; each second broken down in fifths 4. Minute hand touching minutes/ seconds ring 5. Sweep second hand touching minutes/seconds ring 6. Watch often had hack feature so that watches of mission members could be sychronized to the second 7. Result: no question as to "what time is it?" Robert

Thanks Robert...
04/19/2009 - 19:39
that's a useful list. Though given that the V&C models were (apparently) not actually designed for military use, I doubt that one would find them equipped with either hacking functions or special antimagnetic protection. Regards, Tony C.
thanks for the informative post. Really helps to understand (nt)
04/19/2009 - 19:45
1936 Aviator's Watch
04/20/2009 - 02:53
We discussed this wartime Vacheron Aviator's watch click here to see the post ref. 3615 (time only) and 3616 (split seconds chrono).  Considering the year (1936), purpose (aviation) and design (large steel case, luminous numbers) can these be considered military watches too?