It is a nice door for a Freaks VC album! (nt)
10/30/2008 - 18:42
Re: Monstrosity "on the wrist of the beholder"!
10/30/2008 - 19:52
Its interesting to note that the appeal of diamonds in mens watches waxes and wanes over time; an example as the one above is not that unusual. One can see another example in Doc's diamond encased "Jalousie". But many well-regarded watch companies have used diamond and other gemstones as decorations for decades, either in the bezel or on the markers. I expect that the "glue gun" in this case may have in fact Vacheron's own. The use of diamonds was fairly popular in the design of the 50's and 60's. It waned considerably after that but now, fortunately or unfortunately it has recurred with a vengeance. There is no shortage of diamond-encrusted (real or fake) men's watches today from companies such as AP and Hublot...and others, some being quite large as well (the watches and the gems). These are 90% jewelery and 10% watches. There are some individuals for whom the need to display ostentatious trinkets will never abate and so we have a market for them. JB
I cannot believe....
10/30/2008 - 23:57
that V&C would be responsible for such a hideous application of diamonds on this dial. They are completely out of scale and I wouldn't be surprised if they interfere with the hands! I've seen many tasteful Vacheron diamond dial designs, none of which look this awful. I'd guess they were pillaged from the local craft shop.
Re: I cannot believe....
10/31/2008 - 02:39
Most of the diamond markers used in VC watches as well as ones I've seen from AP used single stones for each marker, either baguettes or round-cut, unlike this watch which uses a little "boat-shaped" housing to hold 3 round diamonds. But I don't find any of the watches with diamond markers aesthetically pleasing. The one thing that puts a red flag up, for me, is that the watch is being sold "as is" , not a good sign. But you never know, the world is full of surprises! JB
I usually agree with you on diamonds
10/31/2008 - 10:45
and certainly do on this particular watch... But I was yesterday at a small watchmaker's near La Madeleine (quite a small place, almost unoticeable if you don't pay attention but a lot of vintage pieces and very nice ones with that) to see what he could do for some of the pocket watches I've got and he had a very beautiful small lady timepiece VC up for sale (a quartz one from a few years back) for one of his clients (he usually does not do that and prefers buying vintage pieces and restore them), a really gorgeous piece, and not "blingy" at all. Any woman would be happy to wear it!
This is how you do diamonds....
10/31/2008 - 16:34
Vacheron's Kalla Lune
and on the wrist...
10/31/2008 - 16:46
I prefer the old version of the Kalla, the square one... (nt)
10/31/2008 - 19:02
11/01/2008 - 04:22
Thanks Dean, that's quite an impressive watch! But actually VC produced many diamond studded watches before the 1920's up to the preset with the real eye-poppers being the Kallistas in several styles including the Pagoda (2 versions, I believe) and the Lord Kallista. These were real jewellery items that happened to have watches in them even though the design was integrated. The first Kallista from 1993 had 118 diamonds with a total weight of 130 carats. No doubt the diamonds were at least VS1 or better and all matched (not an easy task!) for colour and clarity. JB
yikes, my eyes, my eyes .....(nt)
10/31/2008 - 10:56
How diamonds should be exposed !
11/01/2008 - 14:39
You might find this tasteful....
11/01/2008 - 16:48
Re: Me too....
11/01/2008 - 21:55
I'm with you on the diamond part, Doc. VC as well as many others were into damond dials for men at one time or other. Here are a few references from the 250th anniversary auction by Antiquorum. You can easily find them on their website: Lot 15,39,40-44,131. There is even a Lady Kalla in there as well, towards the end of the catalogue. And that's just a quick browse-through. The World of VC has many, many more examples. For me the fact that diamonds or any gems stand out from the dial makes them appear intrusive and non-integral and thus unappealing. But, hey there are lots of people who really like diamond etc. and the major watch companies need to appeal to many segments of their market. So good on them! But at least the Kalla, Kallista and Lord Kalla and the Kalla Luna show some artistic merit in the heavy use of diamonds, even if they are a bit over the top and cause temporary blindness . Regards, Joseph
Still like the diamonds....
11/02/2008 - 19:18
Especially on platinum!
Re: Still like the diamonds....
11/03/2008 - 00:15
It certainly looks better on platinum (or white gold), but its just too much of a distraction and does not really add to the piece (IMHO, anyway)
100% with you Joseph!
11/03/2008 - 22:35
The worst thing you can do is place to much on a dial. Whatever it is. Here, if anywhere is "less is more". A watch is for reading the time, date etc. This is too less in another way. You can't see the date or dual time without glasses , this it seems that nearly all brands are masters of producing. Too small figures Otherwise a very good everyday watch, but needing to pick up glasses to see the date or dual time is annoying, especially now when my wife is leaving in a day for USA from Europe, I'll be needing the dual function a lot Cheers my friend Doc