My 1st VC Piece (though I'm not as happy as I'd hoped for)

I was recently sold a VC Overseas Chronograph 41950 in 'perfect condition' only to find out that the minute hand and dial may need replacing due to rust and corrosion (see pic - the rust also appears on the hour markers on the dial as well as the minute hand - there are also a couple of minor marks on the hour hand but I can live with those ).  Does anyone know how much this would cost to repair (approx)?  I'm in dispute with the seller in the US at the moment and I'm seeking compensation from them to pay for the repairs.  I'm very new to this forum so if this question/topic is inappropriate please forgive me.

I've been planning this purchase for over a year now and I am feeling pretty down about the whole thing.  I love the Vacheron brand and I love the Overseas Chronograph, but whenever I look at this particular watch now, I just see the rust marks.  I'd appreciate any advice from anyone who has gone through a similar situation.  Thanks in advance.

Regards,My 1st VC Piece (though I'm not as happy as I'd hoped for)


It sounds like you have now (unfortunately)
06/27/2013 - 18:25
experienced some of the dangers of dealing with watches in the secondary market. Corrosion under the dial might also mean that there is corrosion in the movement. I am confident that VC's servicing of this watch will return it to perfect condition, with a movement overhaul and new hands, but this may go well beyond standard service list pricing if there is movement damage. (Standard fee is $1347 before parts replacement costs). I hope you can negotiate a good result with the seller of this watch. If not, then that you can unwind the transaction and wait for a watch in better condition. Bill
I agree with Bill, if you have signs of
06/27/2013 - 19:16
rust and corrosion on the dial then it means humidity has gone in there and the movement may also be corroded, if possible you should return the watch
Re: It sounds like you have now (unfortunately)
06/27/2013 - 20:50
I will also agree with the advice to return this watch to the original seller.  The extent of the problem is not known and you would be taking a risk of further complications.  Not to mention that you are looking at many months without your new purchase to fix this issue.  The Overseas Chrono is not a particularly rare or difficult to find watch, so there is a good chance that you can find one in much better condittion than this one from a different seller on the secondary market. Best of luck.
Re: It sounds like you have now (unfortunately)
06/28/2013 - 09:28
Bill / Alex / Eric, Thank you for your kind advice.  It gives me some heart and comfort in the VC community. This is a complex negotiation.  Part of the problem is that, because of my untrained eye, it took me 30+ days to notice the issue.  I also feel very let down by my local VC AD who fitted the watch and provided an insurance valuation certificate in the 1st week I purchased it and they did not highlight the problem to me! If you have any estimates on the cost for the replacement parts I'd be very grateful.  My local AD is also telling me that I cannot get any cost estimates for the repair until 6-12 weeks while it goes to the Swiss workshop via Richemont Australia group, which is not very helpful for my negotiations. Thank you again.  Elliot
This is unforgivable bahavior
06/27/2013 - 21:18
Do you have some correspondence from the seller stating that the watch was in "perfect condition"?  If so, you probably have legal recourse, and if not, you can certainly expose them as fraudulent unless they give you your money back.  Is this a dealer, or a private individual, and how did it come to your attention?
Re: My 1st VC Piece (though I'm not as happy as I'd hoped for)
06/27/2013 - 21:54
Bad luck! Make sure you have any pics of the watch offered so you can compare it to what you have. If the pics are different, they likely have been photoshoped to remove defects. If this happened, I believe that constitues fraud. Good luck JB
Re: Re: My 1st VC Piece (though I'm not as happy as I'd hoped for)
06/28/2013 - 09:48
Hi JB, Thanks.  Yes, I have photos of the watch as they sold it.  They are quite pixelated and low quality (maybe deliberately so), so it's difficult to tell.  I asked for a more detailed condition report of the watch from the seller to which they then responded "This watch is slightly used and in perfect condition." Thanks for your support. Regards, Elliot
This is unfortunately
06/28/2013 - 02:04
what we all risk when we buy watches that have already been loved (or abused) by previous owners. I think most of us have stories of purchases that did not work out. I hope you can return the watch!
Re: This is unfortunately
06/28/2013 - 09:54
Hi Hamish, It's good to see a fellow Aussie on the forums! It's also comforting to know that I'm not the only one who has experienced issues with purchases that have not worked out.  As you know it's really difficult to get good stock of VC watches in Australia so we often have to rely on buying our VC's unsighted from overseas. Regards, Elliot (Sydney)