New here and like some input

Greetings to all,

I am new to this forum and I am looking at the Traditionelle 82172, as this will be my very first VC, I would like some input from anyone who is willing to share:

1. For anyone who has own this specific model, would you please share your experience?

2. I was told that it retails around US$20k. If that is correct, I give myself ten years to save up for that watch as I'm a retired person. Can someone tell me anything about the auction market? Where should I look? Are they genuine/reliable? Reason for this line of questions is I am hoping to shorten my wait time if that is a reaonable route.

Thanks in advance to all willing to share. Cheers.


an unusual post! I'll let those who own the Traditionnelle to get back but as for
11/02/2015 - 09:02

your 2nd question just don't forget the price increases meaning that today the 82172 costs 20k but in 10 years it may cost 30k.

You cna check the auction houses such as Phillips, Christie's, Sotheby's or Antiquorum for this model or check the websites of reputable 2nd hand dealers

Great watch...
11/02/2015 - 13:47

HI "unwa" (I hope you don't mind an abbreviation),

I have this piece in Platinum.  I love it.  Here are some of my observations,

  - It wears a little larger than 38mm.  It does not look small at all - the case shape makes it appear quite substantial

  - It is truly wonderfully finished.  The movement is great, the look and feel - the fit and finish - are tryly impeccable.

  - This watch is pretty iconic for VC - it epitomizes (to my mind) the essence of VC - simple, elegant, well-executed.

I think you cannot go wrong.  I love it.

Great watch...

11/03/2015 - 02:55

OK, so I love mine. I actually spent a bit more to get the guilloché dial. If I had a bit more disposable income, I would have tried for a stunning Moscow edition as well. The model line is clean and smart.

Now, if you are retired and expect it will take 10 years to save, I would offer the following:

1. If you hunt a bit, you could snag one at a lower price.

2. But even then, you're still a ways off and won't get to enjoy wearing something now.

So I would go vintage. Vintage VCs are an incredible value. If you spend a bit of time, you'll discover a number of spectacular time-only vintage VCs out there. I keep stumbling upon them, and each time, I want to buy. You can easily find them around the $4K range, which should get you some amazing jewelry on your wrist in short order.

Becareful, you might find there are several movements, metals, styles, and dials that tickle your fancy. This site has a number of articles and guides that will get you smart in no time. I would suggest you get smart and settled before you buy, to ensure you get the right one. Then again, the good news is, for the same $20K, you'll be able to pick up a few, giving you options to fit your mood.

If you need help on sites, let me know, I'd be glad to send my long list of sites your way.

Oooh... Now I've got the bug and will have to go window shopping.

11/03/2015 - 19:16

For good measure.

Re: Alternatives
11/03/2015 - 19:59

Hi Cactaka,

It would be great if you could share some of the vintage's sites. Thanks in advance.

I am an owner and this is a great timepiece. Very few, and I...
11/03/2015 - 07:42

mean very few timpeieces hit all the right buttons in one stroke. And I believe the Traditionelle is one of the few in an industry populated with a lot of overpriced rubbish. I bought mine in early 2011 and five years on, I feel the same holds true, and I love mine every bit as I did back then. I first saw pictures of this in early 2009 when it was just launched and knew I had to have it. It was love at first sight.

At the time it was launched, it got no attention, but now it has become a modern VC icon. This piece and the Patrimony manual wind (with caliber 1400) truly represent the best of VC. No one does simple time-only / classical watches as beautifully as VC. Perfect size, well balanced dial, superb movement, beautifully finished, and (almost) chronometric performance. Not to mention highly versatile. Though I still prefer to wear with a full sleeve shirt.

When I bought mine, the PG and WG were the only versions available, and was then referred to as the Patrimony Traditionelle, and fell under the older Geneva Seal. Now it is Traditionelle and new Geneva Seal (which means the Hallmark is stamped on the case as well) and you have the Boutique cream dial edition, Guilloche dial edition, and the gorgeous grey dial platinum edition. And there are numerous boutique editions for different markets worldwide, including a few gem set versions.

My favorites still include the standard PG, WG, and the platinum edition. 

I was a boutique customer so I did not get any discount, but depending on where you live and the retailers there, it is normal to receive discounts on VC (and almost any brand). So if you bargain hard, you can get enough change out of $20K. 

Some pictures for you. Happy hunting.

I am an owner and this is a great timepiece. Very few, and I... I am an owner and this is a great timepiece. Very few, and I...

Re: I am an owner and this is a great timepiece. Very few, and I...
11/03/2015 - 21:18

Hello there fellow Singaporean!!

Re: New here and like some input
11/03/2015 - 19:57

Thanks all for your valuable input. I will let you know when I got mine.