New or Vintage: What makes a watch valuable today? (video)

During the April Madison Ave Watch Week in New York Vacheron Constantin had organised a series of breakfast/debates.

In this video John reardon (sotheby's), Katherine Thomas (Sotheby's) and Richard Nalley (Forbes Life) debate on what makes a timepiece valuable today.


New or Vintage: What makes a watch valuable today? (video)
Re: New or Vintage: What makes a watch valuable today? (video)
06/16/2011 - 17:08

Either I'm missing something or there is no link to the videodevil

strange! you should be seeing this....
06/16/2011 - 18:09

Re: strange! you should be seeing this....
06/16/2011 - 18:31

No, only the text, no video.  I'll try from home.

You don't missed anything.
06/17/2011 - 02:25

A lot of words by 'Besserwissers'.

Abssolute meaningless.

Three people who achieved some 'positions'.

Because of what, is my question.

Words, words and no thoughts.

In every field of human activity there seems to be people like these.

WHAT are they talking of?

They are talking for and to themselves, apparently not listening to the others!

No thread.

Waist of time.

To be honest I couldn't listen to more than 50 % of the chat, then I gave up!

Reminds me of the classic joke between docs :

" when you ask a psychologist, 'what time is it ?', the answer is 'what do you think yourself !'

Sorry and thanks for


Now I seen the whole 'chat' and I persists!
06/17/2011 - 12:49

This little chat could have ben between any of fellow Loungers.

Nothing new.

No surprises.

As I said for ages, the watches are going to be smaller.

Values presented of certain watches not suprising.

I still can't understand why this video is presented, excuse me Alex, my dearest friend.

I think, no, I KNOW that the knowledge at this Forum is a lot more impressive.

These three 'experts' are no aficionados, as all Loungers are.

They don't follow the 'market' as an aficionado, who, more important, owns his watches.

That's a big difference, often neglected.

A person who 'hunt' a certain watch, perhaps for years, and finally gets it, knows everything to be worth.

These people are a journalist and dealers (auction persons).

They are just doing a job.

Here, at The Hour Lounge, there is a tremendous gold mine of knowledge, down to the wolf teeths!

Let us be proud of that, and perhaps discuss the inside and history of our watches a little bit more,

then during the last 1 or 2 years, where focus has been on new watches, limited for certain countries etc.

In the future, I Doc, hope to see three Vacheron&Constantin aficionados from The Hour Lounge discussing the true value of our watches,

and what they believe about the future. That would be VERY interesting!

I have my opinion, and so far some of it has become true.

I'm NOT a negative person, rather the opposite, 'blue eyed', but I'm also realistic,

and build my thoughts on the past as well as the presentsmiley

Cheers and since it Friday a wristshot is in place


I posted the video because even though the participants do have
06/17/2011 - 14:34

an immense knowledge and as you say it is a gold mine, I thought it would be interesting to the lurkers ("submarines as a HK collector defined himself one cheeky).

The forum has grown tremendously in the past year and there are many "newbies" and I thought this video could be of interest to them.

OK Alex I get you, but I had to express my feelings,
06/17/2011 - 20:41

wich are in tremendous knowledge of my fellow Loungers smiley


and all of you enjoy the wekend with or, better without watch,

let the time be 'free', when you are free!


If nothing else, Doc...
06/17/2011 - 17:19

...the video and this thread prompted you to post that gorgeous watch.  That certainly made it all worth it!  Thank you.



Plus 1... [nt]
06/17/2011 - 18:35


love the psycologist joke! ROTFLMAO :-)
06/17/2011 - 12:52


06/17/2011 - 02:49

I would like to get some thoughts on V&C and vintage V&Cs from Mr Aurel Bacs of Christie's.

All the best to my fellow loungers,


Re: Christie's
06/20/2011 - 19:43

very nice