Old and New

Just received another steel chronograph.....

Old and New
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Re: Old and New
11/29/2008 - 00:19
Must say I have a soft spot for the vintage version... and vintage watches more generally. These are really beautiful pieces. Enjoy them
Thank-you Tacha
11/29/2008 - 00:41
I seem to be developing the same soft spot   Or as Doc would say....a love of the "&".
Re: Old and New
11/29/2008 - 01:15
Very nice, Dean.  I do love those chronos too. Lovely dial on the vintage. The simple font for the numerals is very appealing. I think a number of companies used that font design and for good reason. Its a very elegant and simple design that doesn't detract from the function of the chronograph. Is is steel and gold or just the lighting? Wear it in the best of health Regards, Joseph
Two-tone Joseph....
11/29/2008 - 02:18
The lugs and pushers are pink gold.  Unfortunately, the crown is not original.  The finish, however, is completely original and really amazing to find a watch from 1943 that still retains it's "texture".  The arabics give it an instrument look that I find appealing.  Thank-you for your comments
Congratulations Dean, sounds like you sre converting to
11/29/2008 - 13:21
vintage....it's a good thing. I love the steel and rg combination. Wear it in good health.  John
The lure of vintage is very strong, John!
11/29/2008 - 18:19

Too true...the balance of my collection is slowly shifting backwards in time.  Thank-you for your comments and best wishes

Congrats Dean on the new acquisition.
11/29/2008 - 01:36
As I have long been a fan of Arabic numbers as hour markers, I think I would also prefer the vintage piece.  Also, its size does not appear to be too small by today's standards and therefore very wearable.  I am also interested in hearing about the dial on the vintage piece. Congratulations again and enjoy them both for years to come. Cheers, Duncan
Thanks Duncan....
11/29/2008 - 02:23
for your kind wishes!  The dial is two-tone champagne and is the only steel 4178 I've come across so far with that color dial, although it was more common on all-gold versions.  As we know, V&C had many wonderful variations of the same theme (or reference number).  The case is 35mm but the lugs stretch it out to 45mm. As far as the OS goes, it may have to go in order to finance more vintage pieces!
What, Dean without an OS?!?
11/29/2008 - 13:45
Somehow, this doesn't sound right... What other watch will you take the next time you climb Mount Everest? Surely not one your "venerable" VCs... Cheers, Francois
I'm still determined to "represent" Francois.....
11/29/2008 - 18:21
Vacheron Constantin WILL be on the summit of Denali next spring....
the "Old" is looking pretty sweet!
11/29/2008 - 03:50
Congrats Dean on your new purchase! It does look quite big for a vintage VC - what is its size? And the dial looks amazing - is the color of the dial the result of age, or was it intended to be this color? Cheers, Francois
11/29/2008 - 04:18
Thank-you Francois!  The dial is two-tone "champagne" (gold) with pink gold indexes and hour/minute hands, and blued subdial and chrono hands.  The case is 35mm wide and 45mm top to bottom. The movement is the calibre 434.  Many thanks to Alex who confirmed the case and movement numbers match and the year of manufacture was 1943.
Re: Beautiful Dean.....
11/29/2008 - 04:51
What a stunning watch and gorgeous pictures to boot.  1943; Wow, how did you come upon that treasure? Wear it in the best of health! Best regards, Tom
A real garage find Tom!
11/29/2008 - 05:26

This one came from Sweden!  A gentleman who deals in vintage watches was in the habit of placing classified ads in local papers, offering to buy old watches.  He came upon this piece, which he sold on to me.

Well done!
11/29/2008 - 18:03
I wanted to bid on that one myself! If I had known it would go so low I might have sold off something to get in the bidding! That was the second 4178 two tone to sell in recent months and by far the finest example. I love the dial and the overall condition is amazing. You must be over the moon! Linden
It was tense for awhile Linden....
11/29/2008 - 18:39
but several phone calls and many many hi-res pics convinced me this piece was worth the plunge.  Now that it's in hand, I'm even happier!  Agreed, the Patrizzi example was a bit rougher
Very nice ref 4178
11/29/2008 - 13:05
Congratulations for this nice two-metals chronograph! wear it in good healh ! Berny
Thank-you very much Berny nt
11/29/2008 - 18:40
Whoaa, the dial is SUPERB!
11/29/2008 - 13:41
And I love the color combo of champagne and blue. I am surprised that the case is only 35mm from left to right - seeing next the OS, it definitely looks bigger. I guess it must be one of these watches "that wears bigger on the wrist". The lugs are also amazing - I am green with envy! Thanks for the close-up pic Francois
The lugs give a bigger presence for sure....
11/29/2008 - 18:48
and I'm quite taken with how the champagne dial "warms" the piece.  Here is a close-up Francois, but I need to take some better pics soon.
Congrats Dean for this nice acquisition!
11/29/2008 - 14:12
Patina on vintage dials is unique and yours is really a beauty. I think you can also check with VC to change the crown to a "vintage" one, cannot you? Cheers
Will have to investigate a new crown....
11/29/2008 - 18:53

It would sure be nice if originals were still available

11/29/2008 - 13:18
but as we use to say : "Things where better in the old times" The vintage is just magnificent with the colour of the dial! Once again congrats to both of them ! Cheers Doc
I think that is a trick of memory, Doc!
11/29/2008 - 18:56
My appreciation is growing for vintage cars, watches, wine and women   Thank-you for your kind wishes.
Re: I'm with you.....
11/29/2008 - 19:25
On the first three for sure! Best, Tom
Dean, a great find!
11/29/2008 - 14:32

A beautifully designed and executed two-tone dial. May it only time adventureous moments for you

LOL, thanks Radek.....
11/29/2008 - 18:59
but I've had enough Vacheron adventure for at least a week   And there is no way I'm going to try and keep up with you!
I bow to you sir, the version you have is probably one of the rarest
11/29/2008 - 15:45
ref 4178s!!! Love everything about it
That is very humbling coming from you Alex....
11/29/2008 - 19:08
It was the wealth of knowledge and support provided through The Hour Lounge that gave me the confidence to acquire this piece.   I try to imagine what it was like at the Vacheron factory when it was made in the depths of WWII, who first owned it and how it came to be where I found it....
The "Champagne" is beautiful (nt)
11/29/2008 - 17:15
I'd appreciate advice on a new strap!
11/29/2008 - 19:10
So many different metals and colors are making it difficult for me to decide on a new strap.  In my mind I see tan alligator or even ostrich??
Re: How about this....
11/29/2008 - 19:30
Dark Blue Ostrich leg!  I bet it would be cool as hell (or is that an oxymoron)!  What do you think? Regards, Tom
Need PhotoShop skills....
11/29/2008 - 20:02
Ostrich is very appealing....I'm trying to imagine that!  The lug width is 17mm, which is a bit difficult to find nowadays.
dark blue or burgundy would look nice but in croc (nt)
11/30/2008 - 09:30
I didn't consider burgundy...thanks!
12/01/2008 - 02:12
You have me considering dark blue croc for the WG Batman 6694 too