Please help identify my watch

I received this watch from my father-in-law.  I am trying to identify the model and value for insurance coverage.  If anyone can identify it, please let me know.  It was originally purchased around 1961 I believe.

Re: Please help identify my watch
11/06/2010 - 07:09
I accidentally posted without the pictures.  Here are the pics.
Re: Re: Please help identify my watch
11/06/2010 - 08:52
Hi,  that is one nice looking watch!  I love the dial and bracelet! I think you will need a watchmaker or jeweler remove the back case, which is screwed on.  This will allow people to see 2 important numbers, the serial # for the movement and the serial # for the case. The watch looks like it is from the 1950s.  I'm guessing it has a cal 466 or cal 453. Values are best determined by one of the auction houses. Best Regards, Dan
Sorry, can't be a cal 466, maybe a cal 458? (nt)
11/06/2010 - 13:40
v&c
Re: Sorry, can't be a cal 466, maybe a cal 458? (nt)
11/06/2010 - 18:11
Thanks for the compliment.  The bracelet was originally leather but wore out and was replaced by a solid gold bracelet.
Some Observations
11/08/2010 - 23:06
That is a very interesting watch .  The lugs are similar to those of the Ref. 4538 XXL, but your piece appears much smaller judging by the crown and band...say 30 to 32mm?  Other than the beautiful guilloche work and applied indexes on a pie pan dial, the crosshair sub-seconds is characteristic of late 1940's and early 1950's V&C. Movement with sub-secs should be the 9 ligne cal 458.  If larger case, would be 12 1/2 ligne cal 453.  Also, there is a slight thickness difference between the two movements, 3.3mm vs 4.0mm, and your case has a highly unusual flat screw back, which also suggests the smaller cal 458. Why don't you relieve our curiosity and show us inside the case back?
Answers
11/11/2010 - 18:24
Although our guest has gone missing while leaving behind a mystery, here is a similar screwback V&C from the 40's, 32mm diameter, which seems to confirm the cal. 458.  Note the inner dust cover (actually in brass).