Question about dial

Hello everyone,

I'm new on this forum. I've always been fascinated by Vacheron Constantin watches, especially the ultra thin ones.

I'd like to acquire a 4961 réf., with 1003 movement. 

However, as I'm a newbie, I'd like to have your expertise... I don't want to make a mistake by buying a 'non-original' watch.

Do every 4961 model have a "Swiss" or "Swiss made" on the bottom of the dial? And do every model does also have a ` behind the E of GENEVE?

Let me show you an example: 

Question about dial

Does it look 100% non-repainted original dial?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best regards,

M

its easy to see if a dial has been redone if it has been badly redone however quite difficult from
01/15/2015 - 09:14

a photo if the dial is well redone. In your case the dial looks good. However what you should be mostly looking at is if the case and movements numbers match.

Re: its easy to see if a dial has been redone if it has been badly redone however quite difficult from
01/15/2015 - 11:14

Thanks :)!

So no matter that there is not the 'Swiss' at the bottom?

I've also aked some pictures of the movement, still waiting :).

Regards

Re: its easy to see if a dial has been redone if it has been badly redone however quite difficult from
06/02/2016 - 14:49

Hi, I'm new to the forum and new to owning a Vacheron.

I also know this thread is old, but when you say "the case and movements numbers match" - does that mean identical?

My watch 4961 has different numbers - that assums I'm reading the correct movement number?

 its easy to see if a dial has been redone if it has been badly redone however quite difficult from

Russell

Hi Russell, unless your are looking at a watch before the mid-1800s
06/02/2016 - 15:31

The case and movement serial numbers should never be identical.  If they are, it's a tell-tale sign something is not right.

When Alex / VC says a watch's serial numbers match, it means they checked the archives and records show that a watch left the factory with a movement and case that has that combination of serial numbers.  i.e., the case and movement were originally "married" like that before leaving the factory.

I suggest starting a new thread when you have a question.  Very few people will notice that a new reply has been added to an old thread.

Welcome to THL.

Best Regards, Dan

Re: Hi Russell, unless your are looking at a watch before the mid-1800s
06/02/2016 - 21:36

Dan, Many thanks for your reply, information and advise.

Russell