Question About Manual Winding

Hi Everyone,

I did a quick forum search and did not see what I was looking for.  I am a new, proud owner of a beautiful, Vacheron Constantin piece.  I am also new to the The Hour Lounge.

My question is about the manual winding of my piece.  I wound it a bit and put it on.  However, how do I know when it is fully wound?

My Patek stops winding when it has hit the max amount of turning.  I do not want to push this piece yet.  Seeking some input.  


Thanks everyone !




Re: Question About Manual Winding
02/07/2015 - 03:10

Hi Jay

I'm no expert but, if the watch is automatic, all you need do is wind it enough to get it going in order to set the date/time or whatever. The watch will do the rest.


Re: Re: Question About Manual Winding
02/07/2015 - 04:10
Thanks for the reply Dave. My apologies for not being clear. It's a manual watch. Thanks
Re: Re: Re: Question About Manual Winding
02/07/2015 - 05:57

Hi Jay

I'll just quote my instruction book:

"Rewind the movement with short to and fro rotations of the crown. Never force the crown too tight when its winding resistance increases."

I was told by my watchmaker to never wind it any more than 10 turns but I didn't wind it much at all - just enough to get the thing going - perhaps 4 turns at most.

Lycka till.


Hi Jay, welcome to THL!
02/07/2015 - 15:57

Most VC manual wind calibres will provide resistance and stop winding after it has reached its fullly wound condition.

Cal 4400, with its 60-hour power reserve takes ALOT of turns in order to be fully wound, and I've been told that it does not stop winding - but the mechanism was desigened so that it cannot be harmed overwinding.

Can I ask which VC you got?  Any wristshots or other photos?  (I'm a pushy guy that loves to see other people's watches smiley)

Best Regards, Dan

Re: Hi Jay, welcome to THL!
02/07/2015 - 19:01

Of course my friend.  Perhaps this way you can even tell me if my watch does not stop winding.

Ref: 82172-000R-9382


This beauty has the cal. 4400 movement, Congrats!
02/08/2015 - 07:41

It has a really long power reserve, 65 hours, and it takes a lot to fully wind the the watch.  This is the movement that I mentioned that does not stop winding, but you do not need to worry about over winding it.

Many people here have this watch, or the American 1921 (which uses the same movement), so I hope somebody that actually lives with this cal. 4400 can provide their comments and share experience about winding it up.

Jay - Welcome to THL and a huge Congratulations on acquiring the
02/08/2015 - 11:31

Traditionelle. I am an owner of the same piece since four years and it still makes me smile each time I wear it.

It takes a lot of turns to wind this one. Depending on the length of the turns - anywhere between 100 to 120. (For safety sake I am not writing 130).  The resistance kicks in once fully wind so you know.

No need to fully wind. Once you can count to 100 - 110 - should be ok.  Also, this piece will exceed 65 hours PR. Mine has given 67-68 hours as well which is truly impressive.


Dan and KK - Thank You !!
02/08/2015 - 15:44

Thank you Dan and KK!  Much appreciated.  Take care.



Re: Dan and KK - Thank You !!
02/11/2015 - 17:17

Hi Jay

Glad you finally got an answer - 110 winds! Wow! And a nice looking watch.


Re: Re: Dan and KK - Thank You !!
02/11/2015 - 21:54

Thanks ! I absolutely love it.  I am still getting the winding down.  This AM it had stopped ticking.  Clearly I am still learning to wind it correctly, just nervous not to push it in any way possible.  Sometimes I feel the resistance kick in, but quite evidently it can go much further.

Great watch, Jay and thanks for asking this question
02/13/2015 - 18:58

I just acquired this watch's cousin (the Platinum version), so knowing it is 110 winds is useful for me as well.  I am sure I will develop "the feel" for it, as you will too.  I love your version - mine says hello!  Welcome to the Lounge.  Be sure to check out the Hour Club for collectors as well.

Great watch, Jay and thanks for asking this question