Questions about the Overseas Chronograph

I know, I know...a bit off topic today considering the new releases.  Apologies.

How hard is it to change the strap/bracelet on the OS?  Is this something I can do at home with the proper tools, or is it recommended to bring it into an AD?

The OS movement does not receive the Geneval Seal, correct?  So, in terms of finishing, how does the OS movement stack up to a movement with the Seal?  Significantly less well finished?  How does the OS movement finishing compare to movements in peer sports chronographs (e.g., the AP ROC)?  

I am assuming that the date change can only be accomplished in one direction, correct?

I'd appreciate any answers or comments from anyone who can tear themselves away from the beautiful new pieces VC has announced.

Thank you,

I recommend that a watchmaker make the change for you....
01/18/2011 - 23:00
Changing the strap is a multi part process involving the removal of the four screws that hold the strap pins in place. Even aligning the strap so that the pin goes through can be a challenge. After putting one screw back on you'll have to bang the pin down to fit against it to ensure the other screw will fit snugly. I am comfortable changing most straps and resizing some bracelets, but I prefer to leave strap changes on the Overseas to a professional. The movement in the Overseas Chronograph is based on the F Piguet 1185, which Audemars Piguet also uses for their Royal Oak Chronograph (The Offshore models use different movements). VC adds the big date function, which is really appealing to me. The finish is excellent. Alex should snap some photos of the movement in assembly and post them here. Bill
Re: I recommend that a watchmaker make the change for you....
01/18/2011 - 23:11
Thanks for the reply, Bill.  That is useful info.  As you can see, I am still thinking, although hopefully not as long as I did for the 1921. ;-) I am uncomfortable changing straps on any of my watches excpet for the JLC EWC, so I would certainly follow your advice on this. I was aware that the movements in both the ROC and the OS are essentially the same, so I figured these two would be good for comparison's sake in terms of finishing by each respective brand. I am sure the finishing is excellent -- it is VC after all.    I agree about the big date;  I like the addition of it by VC and I also like the handling of the single-digit dates with a "0" in the first window.  Thanks again, respo
agree with Bill, the changing of strap on the OS is a tricky thing and
01/19/2011 - 08:20
A watchmaker is the best person to ask. I don't have access to my photo base as I'm at SIHH for the week but if you use the search engine I think you can find photos of the movement. Which OS are you thinking of?
Thanks, Alex
01/20/2011 - 00:43
I know you are away, so don't woryy about the movement scans.  I have already searched and found sufficient images and info on the movement.  I was specifically interested in the level of finish given to an OS Chronograph movement. I am interested in a particular LE. ;-)   I will PM you after SIHH is over.  In the meanwhile, enjoy! Best, respo
Re: agree with Bill, the changing of strap on the OS is a tricky thing and
02/12/2015 - 14:00

Hi Alex

Are there any photos of the time/date-setting mechanism of an Overseas?

I'm interested in the mechanics of the thing. Thank you,


01/20/2011 - 00:45
Help a guy out and post some wrists shots of the Overseas Chrono...please! I have done a search and found some wrist shots here on the Hour Lounge and elsewhere, but I would appreciate seeing some more for inspiration.  And really, can we see enough?  Thanks guys. Best, respo
my hairy wrist shot of the Overseas US limited edition on bracelet
01/24/2011 - 11:10
Thank you, Alex!
01/24/2011 - 17:22
That's the photo I was after!  The one indeed.   Best, respo
Have you all only been collecting stamps ?
01/22/2011 - 00:53
Have you never tinkered about with bikes, cars, boats, hunting, brought down some trees? Have you experts for taking care of your these toys also? Don't you look over a gun, a chainsaw, bike, boat outboarder or your car or bicycle by your selves, ever? When I shoul add a bit to the chain to this Speedy Moon in the 80s, people said it was needed a watch maker, it wasn't, it still works, and a bit more chain has been added since my son is wearing it now! For a short period I had a Rolee Seadweller which I had to change the chain on. I was adviced by all people  to let a professional watchmaker do it. Of course I did it myself. Why do they send some lousy instruments with the watch?  . To look at? Even if no instruments are attached you can buy some of your own. I know somebody laughed, when I showed this 'instruments', but they works. I beleive those who laught loudest was the ones that dosn't wear their watches, afraid of scratches, yes even from the shirts Most important is small precise screwdrivers and they are cheap. Working inside with movement, quite simple in many pocket watches, these are good instruments That's a stheoscope for newborn and very good when adjusting. There is always a solution. This clock has worked perfect for nearly 20 years now, some battry change that's all. These things below,needs other tools but there are tools and solutions for everything you have. Changing a strap or bracelet shouldn't be something for other than yourself. Ask Dom.Bernaz Good luck Doc
OK, Doc, point taken
01/23/2011 - 02:39
But to be clear, I do, in fact, wear all of my watches regularly.  I just don't change the straps on my watches regularly, and with little practice, yes, I do worry a little about needlessly scratching a watch.  Nevertheleee, you are right, this should not be too duanting a task. Best, respo
Respo my friend,
01/24/2011 - 02:34
I do really hope, no I know you understand, this was not addressed to YOU, but it has become a repeated question, from so many people, that I thought I should express my point of view. That is, watches are for use. One day there will be a scratch, how ever you try to avoid it. Yesterday a mainspring died on this watch for the second time... I bought it new and it died the first time, after three weeks, 2004 or 2003. Send it to Switzerland and all trouble with that. Costed me nothing except the shipping to GP, not so cheap.. Since then I used it perhaps 20- 30 times! Oh, sometimes I just hate mechanical watches. This is a thing I can't fix, and nobody in Sweden either, since it's a complcated Journe movement.. Than we need professional help. Back again... But for other things like changing straps ore bracelets, it's to throw away money, and if we happen to scratch the bracelet, so what, it will happen next day, when you strech your arm for something in the car, or are looking in a drawer for a pencil... My message to all here, is to use their watches and be prepared that it will be signs of that, look at the old chronographs, that goes for tremendous amounts, with naked eye, not on photoshopped pics in catalogues. Such vintage watches doesn't exist! They are full with scratches, dents which is a sign that they have been loved and used! Cheers Doc
You are absolutely right, Doc
01/24/2011 - 02:44
The scratches are inevitable.  They will come one way or another.  And I completely agree with you about wearing or our watches.  That is what they are meant for.   Nice looking GP, by the way.  I am glad you included a photo of that one. Best, respo
Re: Respo my friend,
02/12/2015 - 16:51

Hej Doc!

I - once - took a pretty good watch back to the jeweler where I bought it to have a battery replaced. I heard banging and asked what was going on. They were using a hammer to preplace the back!

After that I learned to replace the batteries myself.

Nästa gång skulle jag kanske skriva på svensk. ;-)



The flying Doc comes to the rescue with a chainsaw....
01/22/2011 - 13:39
You're right, Doc, 'Where there's a wheel there's a way! Cor, if only we lived closer you could do loads of jobs for me. It brings to my mind 'Don't tell me, show me!' Have a good weekend! Tony
Hi Big Brother,
01/24/2011 - 02:38
the flying doc landed in the post above! I know that you do think the same and also use your watches daily, as we talked about that when we met! Take care, I'll write a longer mail some day little brother
You've got it in one, Doc!.......
01/24/2011 - 18:13
I do agree with your comments doc. We did discuss a similar matter during our meeting in Portobello Road, London. at which time I was wearing a particular watch which I chose for the occasion to go with my dress attire. Do you remember the watch? I am sure you do. Incidentally, I shall be wearing my Chronometer Royal this evening at a very special dinner party (that doesn't happen very often as you know).....still, as you say.....'they are made for wearing' Your Big Brother sends his best regards.