Questions about VC cases

Hi All,

I have few questions about the cases of Vacheron Constantin wristwatches:

Questions about stamp :

1) Are all cases stamped with VC logo ?
2) Does it exist cases made outside of Switzerland with a specific or none logo and how recognize them ?
3) When cases are produced by non VC makers (Verger for exemple) is there the VC stamp in addition to the Verger one ?

Quetsion about case aspect :

1) When the front case is polished is it normal that the back and only the back be a little bit brushed ?


I think the answers can be useful for all vintage collectors !!.


Best regards and thanks for your help.

Patrice.
Re: Questions about VC cases
08/05/2010 - 15:14
Hi Patrice, I can't answer all of your questions, but what I know is: 1.  My vintage V&Cs all have V&C engraved logo on the inside of the back case 2.  Examples of Verger Freres watches that I've seen also have the V&C engraved logo 3. Some watches, where the movement was exported and with the VXN marking, had cases made by the jeweler in that country and were cased outside of the VC factory - some of these cases were not marked with the V&C engraving.  I don't have any specific way of knowing if they were original or not, but often the dials had the jeweler's name on them instead of V&C.  This is something that makes it difficult to tell if the watch is all original.  I believe others are much more experienced than I am and can add more valuable information 4. I've sent a few vintage watches back to V&C for restoration and it seems that they prefer not to polish the back or do a very light polish on the back.  Usually they do not want to touch the back if there is engraving on the back. Hope what little I know helps.  Others, please pitch in! Best Regards, Dan
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08/05/2010 - 15:50
1) Are all cases stamped with VC logo ?  Yes 2) Does it exist cases made outside of Switzerland with a specific or none logo and how recognize them ?  Vergers Frères in Paris (from 1894-1937) and the US agent in the US (EER from 1921-1938) put their logo along with the VC logo, other retailers in the US were also allowed to put the VC logo in the cases. In other cases the case, dials and hands were delivered to certain markets and cased directly there, these cases did not have a VC logo but only the stamps of the case maker. 3) When cases are produced by non VC makers (Verger for exemple) is there the VC stamp in addition to the Verger one ?  see above
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08/09/2010 - 16:26
Dear all, To complete this post that came to my special interest, here are some pictures of the case that started the questioning. I acquired this watch a few years ago, had it serviced by an independant (and known for competence) watchmaker but never carried detailed investigations about it. Maybe it's time to start and any information would be warmly welcomed. Thank you. PS: I found this site recently, it's a lot of very interesting reading!
Bienvenue! Can you post scans of the inside of the case back? If there
08/09/2010 - 17:24
is no inscription of VC in the case back then it is probably a French case meaning the movement, dial and hands were sold to the French agent who cased the watch. This was often done for countries who had high import duties for precious metal objects
Re: Bienvenue! Can you post scans of the inside of the case back? If there
08/09/2010 - 18:27
Thank you. I have no picture of the movement or case back but I will make some and post them. I know that the case is unmarked (VC) but it could bear a maker's mark. To be confirmed...