Recased pocket watch

I am intending to purchase a recased pocket watch. If I remember correctly it was mentioned that VC did not print a dial with this font. Also the `1`s of 11 have different height. VC logo is engraved under the dial (last picture). Can you please comment on:

- Is the dial and the movement %100 original?
- Any comment about engraved `Jaccards Special` on the movement?
- The movement has a number 2S96233, which year does that correspond to?


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07/08/2012 - 21:18
JB
07/09/2012 - 01:00
07/10/2012 - 23:18
JB
07/13/2012 - 02:32
07/09/2012 - 20:12
I may be wrong,
07/09/2012 - 01:00
But it looks from the photo of the movement that the watch at one time was key-wound. The case and crown/stem may then be addtions and reworking of the movement. The bridge work does look like VC. It may have been shipped to the dealer in K.C. and then finalized there (like an ebauche). It looks very clean suggesting that it has been cleaned up (dial and movement) The number of the movement is not a VC number which had 6 digits only. If you omit the "S" it would indicate a movement made in the early 20th cetury, around 1910. JB
Re: I may be wrong,
07/10/2012 - 23:18
JB, previously you had concerns about this font (pls see the link below), do you think that this dial is original? This is the most important question.http://www.thehourlounge.com/thread/view/re-recased-pocket-watch-movement-the-regulating-index-is-interesting-but_69179_69187.html
Re: Re: I may be wrong,
07/13/2012 - 02:32
Yes, I believe the lettering by Vacheron in the late 19th and early 20th century was a sans serif but occasionally the numbers had a small serif. I never seen this time of font with the flourishes on the movement but it may have been done by the jewelry company. As for the dial, most fonts after 1900 were sans serif but I believe there are a few that did have serif fonts, particularly the Chronometre Royal. But there are others. Flourished fonts were much more prominent before 1850.
Re: Recased pocket watch
07/09/2012 - 20:12
- Is the dial and the movement %100 original? Yes, I think so!  The practice of V&C was to insert this code letter "S" for American-market ebauches which were intended to be cased-up by the importer.  By eliminating the "S", the serial number can be traced in the VC archives to give the date manufactured and shipped. - Any comment about engraved `Jaccards Special` on the movement? Jaccard Jewelery Company of Kansas City, Missouri, was an established high-end store in the late 19th century and much can be found about them on the internet. - The movement has a number 2S96233, which year does that correspond to? My best guess is that serial nr. 296233 is from sometime just prior to the disasterous fire that destroyed Jaccard's in 1893.  Alex should be able to provide the extact date from the archives smiley.