reminiscing the summer...

Just a few comparison shots and observations of VC Overseas automatic versus AP Diver. 

Both species represent entry level watches for each brand. They are rather summer watches and I pretty much use them for outdoor activities as well as during holidays. Both have a symbolic connection to water (sports) and represent quite high water resistance (AP - 300m and VC - 150m). Though I have never swum in any of them and restricted myself to taking showers with them on I still find them quite rugged and fit for outdoor adventures. On vacation they are my running companions and that's as rugged as I have tested them.

As far as aesthetic aspects go they are pretty simple watches. They're both date only watches with AP having one additional function (timing your dive's duration through an inner rotating bezel operated by a crown at 10 o'clock). AP has a standard Royal Oak waffle (tappiserie) dial while VC has a beautiful grey sunburst dial which shines in different tones under various angles of sunlight. In terms of size they are both 42mm but AP is much thicker and its 42mm are/look/wear bigger than VC. Both have solid casebacks with respective emblems. AP uses a very comfortable tang buckle while VC sports a secure folding clasp. Both have very comfy rubber straps.

One signifcant difference between the two is the AP is powered by an in-house manufacture movement while VC uses and outsourced ebauche and adapts it to its high standards to name it cal. 1126 before casing it. Can't we all wait for VC to equip all Overseas line-up with in-house calibers?

Now on to the pictures...

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Great comparaison, putting it in the Recommended Threads. Which one
11/11/2012 - 14:36
Gets most wrist time?
Thank you, Jefe
11/12/2012 - 14:01
I don't really have a favourite between the two. As AP is a more sturdy watch I tend to wear it during summer and on vacation. VC is a more versatile piece and I would put it in the category of an outdoor weekend as well as informal dress kind of thing.
Very interesting comparison Radek
11/11/2012 - 18:56
Visually, to me the VC looks more dressy and the RO more hefty - an impression reinforced by their bezel designs.  You can certainly see where the RO gets its WR from...that's one thick case!  Any comments on the straps?  I'm really impressed with the fit and comfort of VC's "rubber band" and deployment and would like to know your thoughts yes.
I agree with Robert's comments on the straps in a post below
11/12/2012 - 14:03
I just forgot to add that VC also comes with an additional grey croco strap as a standard which makes it even more versatile and fit for different occasions. 
Yes indeed
11/12/2012 - 18:37
The grey strap is a superb bonus that reinforces the versatility of this model.  The ritual involved in changing straps, however, must be performed with a clear head, good lighting, and proper tools...not following a few glasses of wine indecision.  Loctite is highly recommended!
Hey Dean
11/12/2012 - 19:27
It's not like you don't already do enough fo us here, but may I suggest that you post a heavily illustrated tutorial on strap changing for the overseas featuring your new Overseas?  I think it could become a very useful reference for all the Overseas owners.  Don't you love my suggestions? wink Best, Robert
You must be in management, Robert
11/12/2012 - 21:21
With such great ideas angel.
This was a side-by-side review I was waiting for
11/12/2012 - 00:48
Great job, buddy! I have been doing my own comparison of the AP Diver and the Overseas Chronograph these past 18 months or so, but your comparison is the more intelligent one, including the time-only Overseas Automatic rather than the chronograph.  To me, the Overseas is a more versatile watch that, while a sports watch, can be dressed up or down for business or casual.  The thinner case, and even the more elegant lines of the Overseas case, just make it an easier watch to wear on more occasions.  That said, I recall a photo of you, Radek, in a suit dancing at a wedding with the AP Diver on, and you looked awesome.  I am not sure everyone could pull that off as well as you my friend, but I do think that the Diver can be suited up every now and then to great effect. Regarding the respective movements, I have mixed feelings about all this.  The cal. 3120 in the AP is a nice movement.  It is not my favorite and it does not hold a candle to the 2121 of its great, great grandfather Oak. But it does have the seconds hand, which is necessary for a diver.   I know everyone is waiting for in-house movements for the Overseas line.  I am not in any hurry to replace the caliber in my Overseas Chronograph, however.  It operates flawlessly and I am quite happy with the Piguet-based movement.  As for the Overseas Automatic, I wonder if VC could use the cal. 4400 or a slightly modified 4400 at some point.  It is a wonderful movement and has a nice power reserve.    These are both very refined sports watches, but my feeling is that the Overseas is just a bit more refined.  The AP Diver is a thick watch, and therefore it more easily and frequently bumps into things.  And the bezel is, well, the traditional Royal Oak bezel, so it shows its battle scars.  The Overseas bezel, well at least the stainless steel one, does a great job of masking blemishes very well.  I am not sure if that is true of the titanium.  And as a thinner watch, and also due to the shape of the bezel, the overseas does not bump into other objects with the same regularity as the AP Diver. To answer Dean's question, the rubber straps on both watches are very comfortable.  The Overseas one, however is thinner and more pliant, while the AP's is thicker and a bit stiffer and definitely heftier, which suits the heftier watch, I think. The AP's strap has a rougher finish, while the Overseas strap is smooth and more refined looking than the AP's more industrial feel.  I like both straps very much, but each one suits the watch it is on quite well.  I continue to maintain that the AP Diver is the most beautiful diving watch I can think of.  It is simply an incredible design by AP.  It has its flaws as a diving watch, to be sure, but they seem insignificant when compared to its beauty and presence.  But overall, I love the entire Overseas line (automatic, chronograph, perpetual chronograph and dual-time).  The Overseas is not a diving watch, but then again, 150 meters is enough for most of our purposes, isn't it? Well, definitely they are both superb watches, Radek.  Given your most recent post before this one, I wonder if either or both of these will remain on your wrist and in your collection for a long time or not. Best always, Robert
Agree with you on all accounts, Robert
11/12/2012 - 14:09
As an AP Diver and OS Chrono owner you obviously have a lot of interesting stuff to say about both watches and we share the same viewsyes I also think OS would be awesome with one of the VC in-house movements ie 4400. not sure about their ruggedness though. plus I believe from  a business point of view it must be cheaper to get a batch of ebauches that you get outsourced and adjust it to your standards rather than develop an in-house cal. The expense would drive the price of OS up and it is by all means an entry level watch into the VC current line-up. I am sure VC wants to keep it that way for quite a while, too.
Re: reminiscing the summer...
11/12/2012 - 03:40
Nice comparison.  I'm one of the few who struggles with the Royal Oak altogether.  The chunky , industrial look doesn't do much for me - to put it in automotive terms (in my eyes) it's like a choice between an Aston Martin and a Lamborghini and I always go for the more sleek,subtle lines. You can certainly see an underlying similarity in aspects of the design which makes my black and white opinion on them a bit more puzzling but my taste is what it is smiley
Thanks, Brent Aston over Lambo - by a mile! (nt)
11/12/2012 - 14:11
yes
A perspective...
11/12/2012 - 16:47
Radek, I learn so much from you and other Loungers and this article is no exception. This comparison feature, supported with a variety of photographs, deserves full praise. Thank you for your time and, as always, your commitment.  Much appreciated. Regards, Tony
Thank you for your kind comments, Tony (nt)
11/12/2012 - 22:59
wink
Interesting post Radek
11/12/2012 - 17:01
The side-by-side shots are worth a 1,000 words... Obviously, 2 great high-end sport watches.  In this case, in my book the AP comes out the winner (despite being quite thick), only because I am do not like VC's choice of font for the numerals on the OS (to each his own, right?). If the comparison had been done on the chrono models, my answers might have gone the other way. I'm not sure if the OS time-only would look too bare with indices only, but visualising it in my head, I think that I would prefer that look. Re having an in-house movement for the OS, of course I am all for it, but speaking practically I don't mind VC keeping the current outsourced ebauche so that a) it can rather focus on releasing the high-end chrono movement that they have been talking about for the last, what, 5 years? and b) keeping the cost of the OS at an affordable level... Cheers,  Francois
We're on the same page here, Francois
11/12/2012 - 23:03
I think the Arabic numerals don't do any good to OS' dial. I might prefer indices-only too. Just like on a chrono model. Cheers!