A request to the lurkers who send me emails

Each day I get quite a few emails from lurkers who do not wish or do not feel comfortable posting on HL, fine I can understand and will try to answer you BUT

1- You shoud start your mail with Hi, Hello or whatever greeting

2- At the end of your mail you should say Thank you

If you're old enough to use a computer then you're old enough to have been told to say, hello, goodbye and thank you.

If you don't use these elementary elements of politeness your mail is going directly to the bin or depending on my mood I'll ban you from the Lounge.

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Support you 100% on this Alex! (nt)
04/23/2008 - 14:16

I really like the civility in our Lounge!

BR, Dan

Re: Support you 100% on this Alex! (nt)
04/23/2008 - 14:59

I hope it happens only for excitement...

I'm with you Alex. Courtesy and respect-- you earn it!
04/23/2008 - 14:30


It's best is not to answer those e-mails, Alex.
04/23/2008 - 14:35

Treat them as if they didn't exist. What's the point being nice to people when they treat you like sxxt...some people need to get proper education  

OK William (nt)
04/23/2008 - 15:20


Totally with you Alex! (nt)
04/23/2008 - 15:38


It's basic!
04/23/2008 - 16:09

and it's worth to remind it to some people from time to time.

Well said Alex (as usually); I know you are an expert in wording (remember our last phone call...)


100% in agreement, be civil especially someone
04/23/2008 - 16:53

that wears a tux.

Well said, Alex !
04/23/2008 - 17:24

I feel the same as you my friend, these are enormous important points,

you are bringing to the light.

ABC for all, is to show respect, and think one extra time before posting.

Is it of interest to others, or just me?

Is it really of such importance to myself,

that I need posting?

Could I strech myself and try finfing out things in my own way?

I would add, there are 100's of books about horolical issues,

only waiting to be read!

Without trying to learn by your own, you will never get any deeper knowledge.

We are not participating here, just to talk about the latest models,

or what news there are to expect,

we are here to have a nice and polite conversation, about everything horological,

mainly concerning our common Brand Vacheron Constantin.

It's easy writing to people outside the forum,

I also get quite a lot of mails, often unnecessary.

It should also be mentioned that some of these mails,

should better place at Hour Lounge, than in my Outlook Express,

because some of the questions are of common interest.

It's up to ourselves how this Forum develops !


Alex you are completely correct ...
04/23/2008 - 19:24

People should be polite in general but even more so when are asking for help or advice!


The problem with internet forums...
04/23/2008 - 19:46

is that many a "brain fart" get's shared with the community when it should be kept private

What I mean to say is that it is too easy to fire off a half-baked idea over the net or spam/solicit many different sources, rather than do one's own research or even apply a bit of logical thinking (like using a "search" function).  I think many forum moderators are victims of lazy lurkers and googlers but there should be a few methods to deal with them.

One that Alex might consider is not to answer any pm's unless there is a compelling reason.  If the forum members would be educated or informed by the disucssion, it should be on the forum.  Knowing that their question's will be visible to all should encourage a modicum of civility, n'est pas?

Another is that questions of value/appraisal should not be discussed at all on the forum except in a marketplace section (if there is one...another discussion perhaps).  This would seperate the merchants from the enthusiasts.

Finally, Alex could consider not responding at all!  I'm sure it can become a real time burden to be known as the internet go-to person on Vacheron minutiae.  I've known highly respected forum moderators that walked away due to contstant pressures from voracious fans.  Maybe if the questions were posted, we could step up and contribute to lessen our moderator's chores?

I hope I haven't missed the point with these suggestions?

Should not have to say (but) it is a minimum (nt)
04/23/2008 - 19:54


Re: A request to the lurkers who send me emails
04/23/2008 - 21:08


I'm glad i always said Hi and thank you!    lol
courtesy should be reciprocal, 'treat the equal equal"...............
04/23/2008 - 22:11

i support your free throws.

Hi Alex :-))))
04/24/2008 - 00:35

First off, I have to say I thought you were having a bad day when I read your post this morning. That is why I didn't respond to it earlier.

Now that I've read Loungers' opinions I must admit there is a lot of bitterness in your post but you have every right to it.

It is extremely important not invade and abuse one's private zone. From my own experience: I have learned this lesson recently...

Saying Hi and Thanks is a rudimentary thing to do under any circumstances.

Thank you for your attention ;-)))

Re: A request to the lurkers who send me emails
04/24/2008 - 00:36

Here! Here!

Absolutely right.

Common courtesy is a no brainer!

You don't even have to know how to spell, but it show that you appreciate the other persons efforts.


Don't p*ss off The Don!
04/24/2008 - 01:46

Seriously, saying that I agree and support Alex is to state the obvious.

Maybe the one thing to remind some of the lurkers is that moderating the HL is not Alex's main job - the guy is a full-time lawyer at a big firm, and so it's not like he's got all the time in the world to answer everybody's questions. When he does, he's doing it on his own time... This, combined with the fact that he's not getting paid (well, maybe a little, but not well enough IMO) means that a little courtesy is a must.

the good from all this is that....
04/24/2008 - 02:17

first of all, Hello dear HLers, It is amasing that in this day and age, some people still don't have basic email etiquette. Alex, I had no idea you have a full time job elsewhere. I must say, I now have a whole new level of appreciation for this forum. and I guess after this discussion, this forum will be even more curtsey-conscience. wish the same for your emails...

well done!!! mf

Alex, I didn't know this was not your primary occupation...
04/24/2008 - 05:18

Similar to Maryam's thoughts, I am totally flabergasted, truly grateful and impressed at all the time and service you have put into being our moderator and making the Hour Lounge such a wonderful place, all done on your own spare time!

Thanks is not enough, but it is all can I say right now.  KUDOS!

Hi Alex, I totally agree with your post>>>
04/24/2008 - 02:56

and understand your sentiments. You do so much and to not be treated with even basic manners is unthinkable. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Best regards and Merci,


A few simple rules...
04/24/2008 - 04:11

Hi guys.

I can only imagine what our Alex must have to deal with behind the scenes.  Unfortunately, "common sense" is becoming quite uncommon nowadays so I just wanted to add a little to Alex' reminder.

1) Always start with a "Hi" or "Hello", or "Dear...".  "Hey" (hay) is for horses and should be best avoided when calling someone's attention.

2) Always use the magic word when asking for something.  It doesn't have to be "abracadabra!" or "ala peanut butter sandwiches!".  Just use "please..." or "kindly..." in the right places and I am pretty sure the genie of the forum will grant most of your wishes (I think you still only get 3 wishes per post though).

3) Always end your messages (particularly requests) with a "thank you" or "thanks in advance".

4) Don't forget to post a thank you message when you get your reply.

Remember, Alex (or someone else) is not obliged to answer or reply to your posts/questions.  We just do so out of camaraderie and a shared interest in VC/horology.



Thanks guys for your support, its good to get a sanity
04/24/2008 - 11:51

check sometimes :-)

Re: Thanks guys for your support, its good to get a sanity
04/27/2008 - 04:38


I with you on the banning idea! I hate when people ask for advice, you take time to respond, and then they don't even give you a simple "thanks" in return.  Aside from that, no one should be afraid to post a question on this or any forum. If someone wants an answer you should make them post the question. Just my thoughts on the topic, I certainly appreciate all of your insight. Keep up the good work!