Salmon Fishing: In the Pink

This will serve as my report on what I did this summer. I went fishing for salmon and caught a big one.    Salmon Fishing: In the Pink
The watch had found its way to a small antique jewelry store in Lisbon by way of an estate sale. It was on a nasty aftermarket strap and obviously needed a good home. A fellow Lounger had spotted this one for sale on-line and, knowing I was craving one, alerted me. Two other Loungers helped me evaluate the authenticity and provided good counsel, while the indefatigable VC Concierge also helped confirm some details. Yet another Lounger did some keen investigative work whilst on vacation and also facilitated the delivery. I regard this addition as a THL team effort, and I am immensely grateful for the help, guidance and friendship.  It makes what already felt like an important watch for my collection even more special to me.

Salmon Fishing: In the Pink   May I just say this is a devilishly difficult watch to photograph, especially when you have my extremely limited skills. (Please Gary, don’t even look at these photos.)  It is hard to capture the color of the dial accurately. Then again, the dial's shade and intensity of color changes dramatically depending on the light and angle. I have noticed wide variance in color among the photos I have seen of this dial posted by other owners.  Here you can see my example appears quite different from one shot to the next.

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Salmon Fishing: In the Pink

I also suspect that the pink dials may vary somewhat in terms of color perhaps due to when and by whom they were made.  I think that adds to the interest of this watch. Or more likely it may have more to do with the photographer and lighting.  To me, the color of this example looks most like those featured “live” in the videos in the "Our World" section of the Hour Club or not too far off from the color of the Financial Times.

Salmon Fishing: In the Pink   Well, as good as the dial is, the business side of the watch is perhaps even more compelling.

Salmon Fishing: In the Pink

This particular example is marked “47101/4 – 47111,” a reference designation I have seen before on other Historiques Chronographs, although until this one, never on one with a salmon dial. It remains somewhat mysterious to me that VC would put both 47101 and 47111 on the case, as if they could not make up their minds.  I understand that this might be a transitional model designation, but still I wonder why VC did not just go with the 47111 reference number.   After hearing Mr. Torres' comments on the Lemania-based caliber 1141 in an interview referenced in a THL thread from earlier this summer, I was very pleased to have added this watch to my small collection. http://www.thehourlounge.com/index.php?module=Thread&action=viewEntire&threadid=71037   I suspect that that watch has never been polished or serviced.  I am on the fence about whether or not to have VC polish it.  What do you guys think? I would appreciate your advice.   A couple of wrist shots, of course:

Salmon Fishing: In the PinkSalmon Fishing: In the Pink   I am really enjoying the size and feel of the Historiques Chronograph.  The proportions are just perfect.  At just about the same diameter as the Historiques Ultra-fine 1955 (about a millimeter larger than the 36mm 1955), the chronograph wears very differently on the wrist.   With its Historiques brethren:

Salmon Fishing: In the Pink   Do you think I have an Historiques addiction?    So, anyway, that’s what I did this summer.    Thanks for looking.  And a big thank you, again, to my fellow Loungers and Daniel Adams who were so helpful in making this fishing trip such a success.  I appreciate more and more how special this community is.    Best regards,   Robert
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Looks great, Robert!
09/07/2012 - 21:36
I'm glad you didn't let that one get away. They are a rare species. I'm not sure polishing is really necessary if there are only a few light marks on the back part of the bezel. If you send it to VC for service it will likely be gone for at least 3 months but they may not have to do very much to it. I believe all the complicated watches go back to Geneva. Wear it in the best of health! Joseph
Thank you, Joseph
09/07/2012 - 23:42
You were the instigator!  And for that, I thank you.  smiley  And we have since learned that you were very busy on your trip to Europe.  I am not sure it really needs a polish either.  And since it is running perfectly, as far as I can tell, I am reluctant to send it in to VC just yet. Thanks again for the tip. I hope one day soon we can take a photo of both our Historiques Chronographs side by side. Best regards, Robert
Really great post Robert. You captured a nice
09/07/2012 - 21:49
slice of THL in all its glory and presented the prize. Congratulations! I personally would not have the watch polished and if everything is running well, keep it  for now and enjoy your new catch. Light scratches are character marks and you will likely have a few of your own over the years, "memory markers" as some call them. It is great to have you on THL and you just made our collective day too. Best to all, Tim
Thanks for your very kind words, Tim
09/07/2012 - 23:45
I think you are probably right that i should not bother to have it polished at least for now.  "Memory markers" defintiely puts a nicer spin on things than does "ding" or "scratch."  Best, Robert
Beautiful introduction of this amazing egg-timer ;-)))
09/07/2012 - 23:21
Hey Robert! The watch looks good on you. I questioned its 'small' size and your large wrist as a perfect couple in the beginning but now my doubts have all vanished. They are a great fit - like a gloveyes I am so glad your effort paid off and you received so much help from the people here. It really makes you appreciate being part of this community. I love your creativity and the way you presented your new acquisition in this post. Way to go, fisherman's boywink  We should move from proverbial hunting to 'fishing for a new watch' . Imagine saying 'happy fishing' or 'good luck on your fishing' to a buddy who's on the look-out for a new acquisitioncheeky Congratulations and may the watch tick away happy moments only.  PS. If you really decide on a slight polish, why don't you think about doing it at a local jeweler's. No point in parting with the watch for 3 months and having it done by VC when you can get it polished in one day at home.
Thanks, buddy
09/07/2012 - 23:38
You are a very good friend indeed, and an invaluable accomplice, er, fishing companion. wink I was thinking of taking it in to the VC Boutique in NYC to see if they could polish it there in the store.  I agree, I am not keen on sending it in to VC for any extended period because the watch seems to be running perfectly.  I do not otherwise know of any local jeweler/watchmaker that I would trust to do the job. I am glad you feel that it does not look ridiculously small on my wrist. I was worried, too, believe me. Best always, Robert 
I like the watch quite a lot....
09/08/2012 - 00:21
but that serving platter is fantastic!! :-) You've built up an amazing collection of watches from the Historiques collection. I can't wait to see how it developes. Bill
Thank you, Bill
09/08/2012 - 06:13
And thank you for your advice and good counsel. I have been, as you have told me, been in quite a VC frenzy recently. I need to calm down! Ah, but there are just these other couple of pieces that I need.... ;-) Best always, Robert
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09/08/2012 - 00:39
Awesome ! Imho the most beautiful chronograph that Vacheron did with the Malte excellence platinum perpetual calendar chronograph. And the 1955 is a true killer once on the wrist with the pleasure growing everyday. I am dying with envy :) Enjoy it Francois
Thanks, Francois
09/08/2012 - 06:33
After reading Alex's awesome article on VC chronographs and spending considerable time drooling over the Historiques Chronographs owned by several of our fellow Loungers. In truth, I really admire every version of this model, but I do have a preference for the salmon dial platinum case combination. Of course, you and I are in complete agreement about the 1955. That love affair still burns red hot for me. Best, Robert
Love the Watch and the Story!
09/08/2012 - 01:19
I have to say that those Salmon dials are really atttractive with white gold, and the watch truly is a classic.  Congratulations on a great find. Daniel will be able to tell you if it has ever been serviced by VC, and if not, it would be a god idea to do so at some point.  Polishing is a tougher call in my opinion.  The watch has some sharp edges that you would not want to lose their definition, so they can only be polished so many times before it will start to show wear. Wear it in good health and make sure it comes with you on your next trip to NYC for an event . . .
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09/08/2012 - 01:21
Sorry, meant to say white metal.  WG is nice, but PT is awesome!
It's a funny coincidence
09/08/2012 - 06:22
I found out that the watch was definitely going to be mine while we were at that awesome VC lunch together this summer. Meanwhile you had graciously allowed me to play with your retrograde beauty. And honestly, that one is at the very top of my very short list. Daniel was already able to confirm some details about the watch for me, and I think you are probably right about not polishing it. Thank you for the recommendations. And yes, I will definitely bring it with me on the next NY trip. Best regards, Robert
Wonderful, Robert...
09/08/2012 - 04:32
what a GREAT catch! I remember the first time I saw a salmon-dialed HIstoriques chronograph - I couldn't take my eyes off of it. And what a story behind it too...a rare and well-deserved prize. Regarding polishing, I recommend not doing it if the scratches are insignificant. Now if the case was never polished in the past, I would urge you not to polish it. Polishing removes metal, and once that metal is removed, it can never be put back. I can't wait to see it in person! Best, Paul
Thanks for the kind words,Paul
09/08/2012 - 06:55
And thanks for the advice on polishing, or rather not polishing. I suspect that the watch has never been polished, and frankly it is not in bad shape at all. I am rather pleased with the condition of the watch. The pink dial,I thinks whatfirstdraws one in, but it is the sum of the many details of this watch that really make this chronograph so interesting and compelling. Best regards, Robert
Fabulous watch and wonderful report, Robert!
09/08/2012 - 10:21
...and I liked the photos a lot, too!  Your passion for this watch and your other pieces was evident in the way you portray them, and I particularly liked the first wrist shot and the final group of 3 watches. This would be a great watch for any collection -- and if you ever tire of that 1921, please call me first :-) Congratulations! All the best, Gary
You are very kind, Gary
09/10/2012 - 01:55
I told you not to look at my photos.  Well, I try to make up in passion what I lack in photographic skills. frown The 1921 is another continuing love affair -- my first VC two years ago in a a couple of months. Best, Robert 
Great watch and story!
09/08/2012 - 10:46
Hi Robert, I knew about your finally getting this watch, but not the detailed story until now.  I am not a chronograph guy, but this one, particularly PT w/Salmon dial, square pushers, cal 1141, the lugs, etc. - AMAZING. But the story of how you got it and how several Loungers worked together to help you get it - it makes me proud to be a member of THL!  heart Enjoy it to the utmost! BR, Dan
Yes, the team effort made getting the watch a wonderful experience
09/10/2012 - 01:58
Thanks for looking, Dan.  One of the things that is interesting about the 47101/47111 is that one some the pushers are indeed more rectangular, while on others, like mine, they are oval. Needless to say, the oval pushers is another detail I love about this watch. Best, Robert 
It's a landed salmon - caught just in time!...
09/08/2012 - 18:54
Robert, everything about your catch looks beautifulyes It's wonderful to be able to share your prize with admiring Loungers. I can see the grin all over your face - well done! Here's to lots of happy hourscheeky Best wishes Tony
This is the place to share our catches
09/10/2012 - 02:00
Very few else in my world understand why I am so happy about getting this watch, but I know the Loungers do.  Thanks, Tony. Best, Robert
So happy for you! What's terrific story. In many cases the
09/09/2012 - 19:04
"hunt" seems better than the "kill" but in your case, as you describe it, you will have a long love affair. Enjoy it and wear it in great health! Best, Eddy
I hope so, Eddy
09/10/2012 - 02:02
I hope this will be a long love.  I am more and more focusing on watches that I hope and expect to remain with me for a long, long time.  And I am hopeful this one fits into that plan.  Thank you. Robert
Hello Respo.
09/09/2012 - 21:45
What a great report. Thanks for taking the time to reveal to the readers all the effort that was made to acquire this special watch. It’s a stunner. I believe that a product itself has very little worth if it doesn’t have a story. You have bought a watch in a very beautiful city, made by a company with the (in my opinion) best continuous story to tell, with a ebauche that is consider to be one of the best chronograph movements ever made, if not the best, its casedesign inspired from an early timepiece from V&C, belonging in the (Les Historiques) line created under the impressive leadership of Claude- Daniel Proellochs and now resting on the arm of a person who is able to appreciate all of these factors.  Congratulations! Yours sincerely KBS.
Thanks, KBS
09/10/2012 - 02:05
My favorite thing about the beautiful city of Lisbon used to be the pastries (the pasteis de natals, I believe), but now I am fonder of the city as the source of my Historiques Chronograph.  laugh Best, Robert
You have what many here consider a grail! Thank you for an excellent
09/10/2012 - 00:30
write up
I was among those lusting after this one for some time
09/10/2012 - 02:10
I feel very fortunate to have found, or rather to have been led to this one.  I really do like all the version so fhtis watch -- they each have their own character and feel.  I could have been happy with any variant of the Historiques Chronograph, but I admit I am happiest to have landed this one. Thank you,   Robert
late to the party, fantastic watch and story, a true HL team work :-)
09/10/2012 - 11:15
may it time only happy moments
Thank you, Alex
09/10/2012 - 16:51
THL made this one happen.  Thank you for your good advice, always. Best, Robert
I love the photo with the FT :-)
09/11/2012 - 20:38
Congrats Robert on this new acquisition! Fantastic collection that you have there - I would be ready to sell an arm and a leg to get the salmo Chrono historique, and the 1921... To answer your question, I would have it polished. Cheers, Francois
Thanks, Francois
09/11/2012 - 22:03
I think you are the only one to recommend polishing thus far.  I am glad I got the 1921 when I did.  It only cost me a leg back then.  Now it would cost at least two limbs.  Thank you for you kind words. Best, Robert 
I know that polishing is not very popular among the Luminaries...
09/12/2012 - 14:55
... but... When I sent my 47212 to Geneva for a service, the VC team was kind enough to give it a good polishing, and make it look like new.  At the beginning I was a little bit concerned beacuse I had read that by polishing a watch, some of the definition/ crispness of angles was lost.  Alex calmed me down and told me that one or two polish would not hurt the watch. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes wether the watch is gold vs. platinum (platinum being as lot more dense, I think that no material is lost, but rather moved around), but since your watch is platinum I'd say go for it - you'll feel like your watch is brand new for a (short?) while, and the scars that it will garner over time will be yours... Others can correct me if I'm in the wrong...angel Cheers,  Francois
I appreciate reading your perspeective and knowing your experience
09/12/2012 - 17:15
I would like to experience the unmistakable glow that a new VC has with this watch, which I am pretty sure polishing would accomplish.  I do not think this watch has ever been polished before, and I wonder if polishing a platinum case will do much to dull the edges, particularly on the shapely lugs of the 47101/47111. If I commit to polishing it once, then I get to start with a perfect piece.  And knowing how fussy I am, and generally very careful with my watches, I can probalby preserve that pristine state for quite some time. I expect to take the watch in to the NY Boutique and ask the resident watchmaker his advice on polishing and service before making any final decision. Thanks again, Francois, for your comments. Best, Robert