For those of you that like to change what watch is on your wrist...

do you tend to prefer simple, time only pieces or chronographs? (i.e., watches without day/date functions?)

I've noticed, besides the simple aesthetic, that I most definitely prefer simple watches.

But I've also noticed that it is a lot easier to change watches on a daily or weekly basis, without having to adjust the day, date, moon phase, etc.  (even when there are quick set functions).  I guess this is also because I don't like to use winders.

Does anybody else feel the same way?

BR, Dan
10/22/2012 - 03:40
10/22/2012 - 04:03
10/21/2012 - 20:39
JB
10/22/2012 - 00:53
10/23/2012 - 03:33
10/23/2012 - 17:06
Yes
10/24/2012 - 04:58
I dont have a perpetual calendar but I don't mind....
10/21/2012 - 12:15
Having to change the day or date on my simple calendar watches
Thanks Alex for your thoughts on this (nt)
10/22/2012 - 03:35
v&c
My wife prefers my simple watches,
10/21/2012 - 12:48
& cannot comprehend why I spend time in winding my watches, setting the dates every Sunday. I think she prefers I spend the time on more "meaningful" tasks, such as doing more houseshold chores (on top of what I already did over the weekend). I like to take my time to set the dates & moonphase. That aside, I do prefer no date or date-only watches for daily wear as I change them anytime in the week depending on my mood or events I may be attending. I don't own triple date nor perpetual. Melvin
Thanks Melvin
10/22/2012 - 03:40
My wife complains I spend too much time looking at (often through a loupe), testing (the 2 new Witschi toys I just got), taking pictures of, etc. But she does want me to keep her watches wound and synchronized so they are ready for HER to pick up and use at any time! surprise Best Regards, Dan
I have historically preferred
10/21/2012 - 15:09
chronographs, to time only, and those without a date. I do still love chronographs, but I have found I am drawn more and more to specific watches in a Brand line up. It's odd, because they are all quite different. In the end, it is just about the aesthetic for me. If it works for me, it really doesn't matter if it is time only, Chrono, perpetual ....I do enjoy the coincidence if the watch I like has a feature or complication that I don't already own in any other watch. BTW... It is possible to wind up your perpetual after a few weeks or months, set the time, and just wear it. I find this encouraging, as it probably means I don't have a serious case of OCD. Gary
A hobbyist that buys Witschi for home use = OCD :-)
10/22/2012 - 03:52
Lazy OCD may be more precise.  As I find it a pain to reset the day/dates.  I have to admit that it is partially due to my specific watches.  Lazy:  I don't like it when my retrograde date points to 25, when it is the 22.  I also have a vintage watch with guichet date, but it is not quick set. OCD:  I dont like it when a watch stops between 8pm-4am when there is a date function.  I don't like the idea of having it stopped, especially when it is closer to 11pm-1am.  And...when I need to set it again, I have to go around at least past 12 o'clock to make sure the AM/PM is right. I totally understand your thoughts and agree to being drawn toward specific watches in a Brand line up.  I it may be contradictory (what else is new), but I really like the GO Karree Perpetual Calendar.  It is a form watch, form movement and most importantly...I love the way GO displays all the information of a Perpetual.  Simple/subdued, but really easy to read. In triple-dates: I love the Ciccolatane.  Berny, if you're out there, I love the one you mentioned to us in your Sotheby's quote!  BR, Dan
Truly, madly, deeply
10/22/2012 - 21:43
OCD! Only joking, I have met you enough times to know you're practically normal. Whatever that is... Best Gary
Hi Dan, I feel the same way
10/21/2012 - 17:08
I also tend to wear more simple watch, even without a date, as it is easier to grab (the watch) and go to work. Date without quickset is difficult to deal with as I hate to turn so many turns to move the date ... :)
Good to hear from you!
10/22/2012 - 03:55
I hope you're doing well!!! I think we both have a love for our Ref. 6782s and K1072 movements, but they are not quick set dates! The only thing I can do to help you with is to take it off your hands one day, devil  (better to have only one of us suffer...and I'll take the bullet for the Longer team cool) Best Regards, Dan
There was a time when I was into date complications..
10/21/2012 - 17:18
My earlier watches were time and date watches although I did have a 60's Breitling chronograph and the original Overseas chronograph. Then I got the Jubile 1755 with its day-date display, which was followed by the Toledo triple calendar and then a Patek 5146 annual calendar. At first, I enjoyed setting the date (and even the moon phases) on these watches, but as my work schedule got busier and our daughter got bigger, I found myself having to hurry off to work every morning. That's when having to set the dates every morning started getting tedious (especially on the Toledo). Myy last additions were the Patrimony Contemporaine and Cartier Santos Dumont time-only manuals.  Right now I think the Aronde and American 1921 are my favorites from VC, and I wouldn't mind having an AP Jumbo (just because its an icon) and a Panerai (just for the fun of it).  I think a serious chrono would be nice but the current ones are a little too crossed-eyed for my taste (looking forward to seeing a chrono with the right size movement inside). Well, as you can see, I think I've pretty much had my fill of date complications. I think its safe to say that my taste in watches has really shifted to simple models that have a more classic appeal. Best regards, Kazumidevil
Thanks Kazumi
10/22/2012 - 04:03
I've been through the same thing, at least mentally/emotionally (i.e., without necessarily buying). At first I thought the more complicated the better, more valuable, etc.  Then after settling down, I got to appreciate which types of watches fit my life the best.  They tend to be simple, time-only, pieces I still love complications, but not necessarily ones with related to day/date.  (Can anyone say a Tourbillon Minute Repeater, with a Split Second Chrono?  I don't know if one exists...Ateliers Cabinitoirs?) Best Regards, Dan
Wish list
10/21/2012 - 20:39
Geez Dan, you must have a crystal ball!  I too have been daydreaming about a simple daily-wear timepiece with high-chronometery value.  In addition to the Chronometre Royal 1907, I'd consider Journe's Chronometre Souverain, the fascinating GO Senator Chronometer, Moser's Mayu, and JLC's Master Tourbillon in steel.  Now something will probably be revealed at SIHH to blow apart this list...
I don't know about Crystal Ball...
10/22/2012 - 04:08
I think OCD may be more apprpriate cheeky The watches with chronometric value that I've looked at have really all been in the vintage arena.  Out of the modern/relatviely modern ones, the Laurent Ferrier on a certain moderator's wrist is one of my favorites, along with the Richard Lange in Pt. and the GO Senator Chronometer (though the date bothers me a little on the GO).  Can't wait to see what comes out in Jan.  BR, Dan
How about...
10/23/2012 - 03:29
...a Voutilainen Observatoire with the Peseux 260 movement, or even a Dufour Simplicity (mine has been running about +9 seconds per month...). One of my buddies has the GO Chronometer, and it's a lovely piece indeed... Best, Gary
Hi Dan
10/22/2012 - 00:53
I do change watches daily and like to vary things quite a bit. I do like the time only watches which I wear most often, but they are on winders most of the time. But they are simple and fuss-free. And adjusting them is minor. Chronos run a close second. But i do have to admit that I do enjoy wearing my perpetuals too. They are always on winders so very little adjustment is required.I wear one at least once a week. The ones I save for special occasions are the tourbiilons and Metier watches. Joseph
Thanks Joseph, I think I lead a much more sedentary life...
10/22/2012 - 04:13
I can't think of any occassions or events that I go to where something like a Metiers watch would even fit in (besides WIS GTGs)blush Do you have winders for manual wind watches as well?  How well do they work?  I believe our beloved Veillotron initially had problems with his that caused scratches to the case of his PCC? BR, Dan
Re: Thanks Joseph, I think I lead a much more sedentary life...
10/22/2012 - 16:51
Hi Dan, The only manual winder I have is the one for my VC Chrono Perpetual. Initially I had a lot of problems with it and kept coming up with different modifications to get it to work properly. I finally found some rubber tubing that was the correct inner diameter to hold the crown and also fit on the motor shaft. Anyway I mentioned it to Alex and Vacheron contacted me. I ended up shipping it back courtesy of the local Richmont distributor and they fixed it. They were terrific and even threw in a watch overhaul. It works fine now (for almost 2 years). I have a manual perpetual pocket watch and I am the winder for that one smiley Regards, Joseph
Got it! Merci JB (nt)
10/22/2012 - 17:14
v&c
we're pretty much on the same page here, Dan
10/22/2012 - 15:14
My initial fascination with complications has wound down in time. Although a date aperture/subdial comes in handy at times I find my self neglecting watches with day/date complications more and more. Less is more, right? I am looking at adding an AP RO Chrono to my collection sometime soon as well as I do think a QDI Chrono will be on my wish list once it's out. Please let it be a see-through dial, though!!!  And I do agree with many here, setting date, day on many models can be a pain (the beautiful Toledo holding the victor's palm)
Thanks Radek, very often - less is more :-)
10/22/2012 - 17:12
Even when it comes to the opacity of the QDI dial! yes (i.e., it should be more see through).  This is one thing that I have to admit I changed direction on.  When the QDI first came out, I wasn't thrilled with the dial and legibility.  But once the solid dial was introduced, I became really attracted to the see through ones!  surprise The AP RO chrono is sweet!  Good Luck in getting it soon. BR, Dan
I am with the other Gary...
10/23/2012 - 03:33
...in thinking that it's about the appeal of the specific watch, not the potential hassle factor of having to set the date.  I do keep my perpetuals (and some other calendar watches) on winders, but really don't mind the winding and re-setting on others. One recent acquisition (the JLC Grande GMT Reverso) helps by having an 8-day movement, so I generally get to it before it runs down. And, as I age I find it useful to have the date readily visible on my wrist!  You are far too young for that issue to arise yet, Dan :-). Best, Gary G
Thanks Gary, but as for being too young...
10/23/2012 - 04:04
I almost always have an Isomething with me, and when I need to know the date...I usually need to know what's on the calendar or task list, frownwink I look forward to seeing you in 3 months! yes BR, Dan
I am with you on this, Dan.
10/23/2012 - 17:06
I replied to this post the other day, but somehow I managed to lose the post. In any case, I find myself more and more drawn to simple time-only watches that avoid the date.  The most compelling pieces for me tell the time, and time only, in an exquisite way or demonstrate interesting ways to display the time (e.g., the American 1921, the Saltarello, the Mercator, etc.).  Now on a watch such as your beautiful retrograde date or the Patrimony bi-retrograde day and date, the date is THE star attraction, so I can see the reason for these watches and would be delighted to have them. In general, I really dislike a date window at 4/5 o'clock. I wish only that the Overseas Automatic came without the date at that position or that it had no date at all.  I generally don't like dates on chronographs, although I make an exception for the Overseas Chronograph.  I wear that watch so frequently that I do not often have to change the date in any case, and the position of the large date at the top of the dial is much better visually for me. It is a pain, literally, to change the date on my AP Jumbo, so I usually just leave the date alone and wear the watch even when the date is incorrect -- this is a difiicult thing for a mildly OCD guy like myself.  LOL.  But for this watch, I can forgive the minor flaw.  I have not yet found the perfect perpetual calendar, but I wonder if I ever will, or if I have already recognized that keeping it wound and correctly set might not be worth it for a watch I imagine I will seldom wear.  So, I guess I really end up happy in most instances if I can avoid the date, but it is not generally not a deal breaker one way or the other. Best regards, Robert
Does the AP Jumbo use cal 2121?
10/24/2012 - 04:16
In other words, does it have a quickset date feature? If not, I can understand...that is the way the cal 1072 in the T-bird works. I love watching the retrograde fly from 31 back to 1, even though I have to wait until 1:30am to see it! (It needs more energy than a guichet date, so it does change at midnight). I love all my watches, even the ones with dates, ;-). I think I just put more consideration into this when I look at new, potential, acquisitions. BR, Dan
Yes
10/24/2012 - 04:58
The AP Jumbo has the cal. 2121, and you have to back and forth between 10 and 2 to change the date "quickly."  The crown is rather small and octagonal so that is why it is not the most comfortable.  And I absolutely love the watch. I am looking at one non-VC watch now that has a date, but every VC is am considering or hunting at the moment is without date.  Go figure.  Best regards, Robert