Toledo or Jubilee?

I love both models and am looking for tips and hints since I can't really make up my mind as to which to get. They are so different and awesome at the same time that I wish I didn't have to make the choice and could get both at once. Maybe you can supply some useful information on both models and some history? Thanks
06/23/2007 - 12:45
06/23/2007 - 17:46
06/24/2007 - 01:17
06/24/2007 - 01:09
06/24/2007 - 01:22
two fantastic yet very different watches and among two of my
06/23/2007 - 16:27


The Jubilé for me represents in a way all of VC's know how and stenghts: a beautiful modern design, a gorgeous case and lugs to die for, a stunning guiochage, a useful complication and above all VC's first inhouse automatic caliber with a finish to put many other high end brands to shame.

The Toledo 1952 is also iconic as it is a modern reinterpretation of the Cioccolatone triple date models from the 50s, I love the case size and shape.

If I had the choice right now I would get the Jubilé just because it is so hard to find and prices seem to be rising. The Toledo being a regular production model you can always save up for one later.

Just my 2c

I agree with Alex...
06/23/2007 - 17:46

The limited edition Jubilee marks a milestone in VC's history and is packed with details showing off VC's mastery of the different watchmaking arts.  From the sculptured anniversary lugs and case, guillochage and in-house movement with geneva seal, the Jubilee is just a lovely showcase of VC's skills. 

Of course the Toledo is just as attractive.  as Alex mentioned, it is a stylish reincarnation of a classic VC design.  The characteristic stepped, formed case is distinctively VC.  Definitely not like any of the other watches around.  My only peeve is that it does not have a quick date adjustment (no pusher for the pointer date).  Of course, if you wear it everyday, then there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

As Alex mentioned, there are not too many Jubilees left out there so it might be smarter to go for it first.  Like you, I also love both watches (obviously) but if I had to choose one, I would take the Jubilee (in RG).  The Toledo is still a pretty lady though.

cool comparison shots!
06/24/2007 - 01:17
wow, that's a way to convince someone to make up his mind. Only thing I'm afraid of is I have never seen Jubilee in person, just pictures. What's it really feel like to wear one? Where's the best place to look?
very difficult choice since both are superb watches but I would
06/23/2007 - 18:17

personnaly go for the Jubilee first if both were before me:

1) The Jubiliee is a limited edition long sold out and whose price on secondary markets is at list or above and I would prefer to get one right now before it gets too expensive

2) I love the cal 2475 and its impecable finish

3) the design is classical with a twist (as Paul Smith puts it )

I really like the Toledo as well, the case is gorgeous and in general I really like calendar watches but I would get the Jubilee first then save up fo the Toledo or try to get one second hand.

thanks guys
06/24/2007 - 01:09
for all your valuable comments and advice. You all pointed out Jubilee as a first choice. I kind of felt the same way but wasn't 100% sure. Now I know for sure and will start my hunt for the piece. Any suggestions as to where to look for it? What is a reasonable price to pay?
Both are great watches so it depends on what you are looking for..
06/24/2007 - 07:49

Both watches have their own way of linking with VC's history.  The Toledo is a remake of a historical and iconic VC design, while the Jubilee IS history in the making as it is a 250th anniversary piece.

The Jubilee, at 40mm, is by no means small.  However, I find it very comfortable and it has a nice heft which befits its stature.  Now that you seem to be inclined to the Jubilee, finding one may require a bit of searching and some luck.  I am sure there are still a few out there in some ADs (I happened to bump into one (RG) at an AD here in Osaka last weekend).  I am not sure if AD's in your area will give a discount since pricing and selling practices may vary from one region to another.

Just to make things a little harder for you, the Toledo also has a haunting beauty (maybe I was haunted by the ghosts of Cioccolatones past ) and a distinct design that hardly goes unnoticed.  Have you seen the video introducing VC and featuring the Toledo?  I have the DVD which came with the book "Secrets of Vacheron Constantin", and got hooked on the Toledo after watching the video.  My wife finally agreed to let me buy the Toledo because I was driving her nuts watching the video day in and day out!  You can catch the video on "Time TV", along with other cool videos from VC!

Sorry for making the decision difficult but, after all, making that decision and going on the hunt is all part of the fun!


devil's advocate
06/25/2007 - 10:22
Hi Kazumi, I was hooked on Toledo the moment I saw it. I was very much determined to get one in WG. But then I met Jubilee through pictures and started getting second thoughts how it made VC's history being an anniversary model and a limited one on top of it. I was pretty sure I should get it first and then save up for Toledo. Now your devil's advocate's play got me confused all over again. My only problem is I have never actually tried the Jubilee on - I am just captivated by its beauty on pictures - while Toledo had been on my wrist before on a couple of occassions and it fits perfectly. Also you're fascinated by the RG Toledo which I had not considered before you got me thinking about it. You really made my choice harder, you little devil :-)
I would choose Toledo
06/24/2007 - 01:22

This watch is the piece of the splendid history VC. But if you plan the purchase of both timepieces, then you can first think over the purchase of the limited Jubille.

Re: I would choose Toledo
06/24/2007 - 18:46

I would also choose the Toledo (having already done so..white gold). I did have a YG one but prefer the WG.

Rose gold is my favourite metal but I find that in the Toledo, at least from Alex's pic, a bit too "brassy and glaring" for my taste.

It might work, though with a black or dark grey dial.

The 1755 is a beautiful watch but not extraordinary. Peoples comments here seem to reflect its scarcity although the movement is terrific. I don't think if I had the choice (and i did) that I would choose it over the Toledo (and I didn't).

The Toledo design is much more unique and has a wonderful feel on the wrist because of its curves. The stepped bezel is also a wonderful retro touch (being of course a recreation of an earlier design).

I do love wearing it and just admiring it!

I'm sure you will make the right choice.

Good Luck!

Re: Re: I would choose Toledo
07/18/2014 - 21:58

JB noticed you had YG then WG. Can you comment on the YG?

Is YG noticeably different from RG?

Any comparisons? I am trying to decide between YG and WG myself. Thank you. 

I am afraid it has to be the Toledo, but in the Red Gold>>>
06/24/2007 - 04:10

as I saw it in Basel last year. Once you view a watch for the first time in a setting like Basel, it was quite simply love at first site. The red gold has a lusture that was made for its unique case. I had some discussions a few weeks ago about one alteration that would make the Toledo perfect for me and then of course my own special Toledo. They are both wonderful watches of course, just wanted you to know a non-rational reason for the Toledo. Best to all, Tim

Red Gold Toledo?
06/24/2007 - 11:30
Is the red gold Toledo custom-made or a regular production? I've never heard of red gold Toledo so far. It really has to be uniqe and look great. What kind of alteration are you going to have on the piece?
Re: Red Gold Toledo?
06/24/2007 - 12:55

The rose gold Toledo is a regular production model

I got mine about 6 months ago and really love it

It is shaped like no other watch, those curves!

My only reservation is with the date hand which i find too dominant and sometimes i get it confused with the hour hand

As mentioned earlier by Alex the Jubilee is a significant watch in VCs history and more difficult to find but for me It was the Toledo that grabed me

My post is clearly biased so you need to see which one is really for you


I love the RG Toledo and one of dream watches to commission would
06/24/2007 - 14:50

be the RG Toledo with a black dial

Scans of the RG Toledo courtesy of Alberto Schileo

I agree with you, RG Toledo is great
06/24/2007 - 15:56

I like realization of moon phases by VC .

Sorry for the late reply, just got in from Tokyo>>>
06/24/2007 - 22:19
and saw all the talk about the Red Gold Toledo and Alex is reading my mind or talked to D. Bernaz about our conversation a few weeks ago. I will not tell everything we discussed, but the black face and a change to the hands--which is much more complicated than I ever imagined. The case is simply the most striking and hypnotic you have ever seen. Alex, many thanks for the great photographs, really helps. Best to all, Tim
we think alike Tim :-) Didn't know ou were considering a black dialed
06/24/2007 - 22:57

Toledo, I guess your getting one will close the door for me :-(

what kind of hands are you contemplating?

you guys know sth. we don't?
06/25/2007 - 00:06
Is Red Gold Toledo being considered for production by VC? I agree with both of you - black dialed Toledo would be unspeakably and impeccably beautiful.
Hi Radek, the RG Toledo was launched in 2006, I posted some scans in
06/25/2007 - 00:36

my reply to Horolophile

Re: Hi Radek, the RG Toledo was launched in 2006, I posted some scans in
06/25/2007 - 00:58
Thanks Alex, I've seen the pics, they're great shots. Only question I had - I kinda sensed it in your discussion with Kazumi - was if there was a Red Gold (not rose gold)Toledo planned by VC? Anyways, what is your pick WG or RG Toledo?
no red gold per se is being launched only the RG model. My pick
06/25/2007 - 12:30

today would be the RG, I used to have the WG which I truly loved but sold to fund another purchase knowing that I would get anotherone along the line. However meanwhile VC launched the RG which I prefer but that's just because I prefer RG in general( it also makes the guillochage of the dial stand out more)

Alex, yes the black dial with the Red Gold>>>
06/25/2007 - 06:12
but do not let me get in your way, this will be at least one year for me do to other obligations, but it will happen. I was discussing my options for the hands with DB. This is quite tricky as the number of manufacturing techiques on the hands are limited and they would need "fit" this incredible design. I also agree with others that the day pointer is out of proportion, but these are very fine points as I still like the watch very much as it is. If events proceed as planned I may need a white face and black face, so feel free to experiment! Tim
You start :-) It would make a stunning design (nt)
06/25/2007 - 12:31


06/25/2007 - 13:33

My RG Toledo

I changed my strap to black and it really brings out the rose.



Nice touch. I think it gives it a vintage look (nt)
06/25/2007 - 16:34


Re: Nice touch. I think it gives it a vintage look (nt)
06/25/2007 - 18:05

Thanks Kazumi

Here's another poorly taken photo


You are a lucky guy! That is a great touch. (nt)
06/25/2007 - 18:19
It looks good:-) sigh...yet another VC I would like to own :-) (nt)
06/25/2007 - 18:34


Thanks Guys(nt)
06/25/2007 - 18:51

If it were a crime to post poor pics of our watches...
06/27/2007 - 02:54

Thanks for the extra shot.  If it were a crime to post poor pics of our watches, we'd all be in Jail by now...LOL!

Thank god greenpeace does not speak out against such watch-abuse!

But seriously, the Toledo is really a nice watch in any metal.  I would love to try out my dark brown strap on my WG Toledo but since we are approaching Summer and since I do not have the tools, I guess that will just have to wait a while longer.