Vacheron calendar watches part 2 , reference 4140 ? or 4141

A little detail in this fantastic article I am reading two times a day at the moment. :)

There is a reference 4140 or 4141 that we don't see in the article. And they inspired some models in the year 90s/2000s .

Do you have more info on these.

I have found this photo at Sothebys but no reference is indicated in the description.
Vacheron calendar watches part 2 , reference 4140 ? or 4141
And these at Antiquroum under the reference 4141 in the text
Vacheron calendar watches part 2 , reference 4140 ? or 4141

Vacheron calendar watches part 2 , reference 4140 ? or 4141


Hi Cisco, I think we'll need the Article's author to chime in on this
02/15/2012 - 03:55
next week when he is back from his travels. wink I've never heard of a ref 4140 or 4141 before and didn't really notice the reference to it in Alex's article until you mentioned it.  I am guessing there was a typing error and that our author meant to say the Historiques triple calendars was inspired/based on ref. 4240.  The Antiquorum text stating a ref. 4141 is confusing to me as well. Interesting pictures that you posted, especially the second one, because I don't think I've ever seen a VC triple date with dauphin hands.  I wonder if the hands are original?  I think you've made a great find if ref. 4140/4141 really exist and are out there, somwhere. Best Regards, Dan
Thanks Dan for your words
02/15/2012 - 11:43
Alex did all the job yes, I am just reading it again and again, and it seems to me that there was no typing mistake. I see the lugs which are different from other references and which seems to have inspired the later model, a ref 4140 or 4141 "sounds likely", but infos are scarce. These models are true icons. I had the chance to have a 4764 in my hands once, I thank Alex, Stefani and the Vacheron team for that. I looked at it 2minutes, said "nice", and let it pass to other collectors. I didn't realize my chance at that moment because I didn't take the time to "understand" which piece it is and what it represents in Vacheron History. Now I feel a bit stupid not to have spend hours on it blush
You are holding one of my Dream Watches!
02/15/2012 - 17:40
I've seen the watch in it's display case at the Geneva Maison, but have never held one before.  2 minutes is still longer than most of us get, wink I hope Alex confirms and can provide more information about ref. 4140/4141 - I love learning new things about this old brand, heart Best Regards, Dan
Re: You are holding one of my Dream Watches!
02/15/2012 - 17:43
Hi Dan, I think there is one coming up in this month's Antiquorum HK auction.
Thanks Joseph! I just checked...
02/15/2012 - 18:08
and the one up for auction is a Historiques Toledo 1952.  I'm still dreaming about the original, grande, Ciccolotane, smiley, though I know I can't afford it, broken heart BR, Dan
Sorry, Dan,
02/15/2012 - 21:31
I was referring to lot 446 Joseph
This one is amazing ! (nt)
02/15/2012 - 22:54
Great taste as usual Joseph yes
I agree, it is BEAUTIFUL!
02/16/2012 - 04:22
Though I think the cal 495 is the one with the moonphase, and cal 485 does not?  (The text says it is a cal 485, but it has a moonphase).  BR, Dan
Well that makes me feel
02/15/2012 - 19:20
much better to know I was so lucky that even you didn't touch it  cheekycheekycheeky . I am also looking forward to learn more. cheers Francois
Another from Antiquorum
02/15/2012 - 16:56
Data from Antiquorum No. 429583, case No. 273769 could it be 4140 without moonphase and 4141 with?
not ref 4141, these are errors in the auction catalogues!
02/21/2012 - 14:57
Do you have more infos on these pieces?
02/21/2012 - 19:41
They are said to be made in the 40s
haven't found anything unfortunately
02/21/2012 - 22:12
Good a new mystery to solve then
02/23/2012 - 17:16
Thanks for your research yes