VC Geneva or Geneve

Hi Guys,

Have u guys ever seen a VC watch with Geneva written on it instead of Geneve?

i thought Geneva is english and it suppose to be Geneve (french)?



05/28/2008 - 19:41
The real name is
05/28/2008 - 20:23

Genève, but who can write that

It's like in Sweden, Göteborg, which is known as Gothenburgh,

or in Denmark, Köbenhavn known as Copenhagen.

Geneve is OK  and in English it's Geneva.

But remember that it's only one watch that counts from Genève,

Vacheron Constantin.

Just a taste



Always a good taste of selection Doc
05/28/2008 - 20:40

As far as I could remind seeing many vintage dials, Geneve is written in most cases with an accent on the second e: Genève, so the french way of writing it...

It's also the same for pulsation chronos: it's written "gradué", with an accent! I never saw this word in english.

What stranger is, even with french words used, you can see "swiss made" or "swiss", so english! at the bottom of the dial.

Any explanation?

No I never got that ! nt
05/29/2008 - 01:01


WOW is all I can say Doc :-) (nt)
05/29/2008 - 12:57


Beautiful array, Doc. Also...
05/29/2008 - 00:27

let's not forget the wonderful champlevé enamel process, also used by Patek Philippe during the (mid-century) period, which not only creates a beautiful effect, but also makes it very easy to confirm an authentic dial!


Tony C.

just love it, what else can you do :-) nt
05/29/2008 - 01:03


What about Genf?
05/29/2008 - 00:53

One would think the German name for the city would be at least equally relevant, given that German is Switzerland's other primary language, yet apparently nobody ever considers using it.

Never seen on a dial. nt
05/29/2008 - 01:03


I guess Geneva is on the Frenchy side (compared to say, Zurich) :-) nt
05/29/2008 - 03:25


Brand identity I guess. VC being from Geneva which
05/29/2008 - 12:07

is considered world capital of watches and also part of the French speaking part of Switzerland the brand certainly wanted (wants) to underline this point even more by writting the French name Genève. This is also true for example fro IWC who inscribes its dial with the German word Schafhausen and not its French counterpart of Schafhouse.

Another possible explanation being that the French speaking part of CH and the German part don't get along...

Re: VC Geneva or Geneve
05/29/2008 - 11:32
So if i saw one the watch face has the print of Geneva i can consider that its a fake? cos i remember in early stages they actually were targeting markets in north america. would it be possible the print would be different for that series?   Thanks, Gary
Hi Gary, some rare examples of pocket watches have Geneva on the
05/29/2008 - 12:03

dial instead of the French Genève. These watches were made specially for the US market. The cuvette was also sometimes inscribed Geneva.

Perhaps this is one?
05/30/2008 - 05:19

I was suspicious of the very dark lettering and lack of accent on Geneve, although the merchant said it was an original dial.

That's an original,
05/31/2008 - 20:42

question is ,

do youn have it ?


Nope, still looking...
06/01/2008 - 21:47


Don't forget that Genève or Geneva,
05/29/2008 - 13:41

was the last (?) canton, to enter Switzerland, 1 of June 1814.

It still bears the name Republic and Canton of Geneva !

Before that, it always been a small country of it's own!

French was, and still is the national language of Geneva.

If you not are careful when you drive you are suddenly in France,

it has happened to me

It's only 280 square km's, roughly about 1/10 th of great Paris

I just love Genève

Once I stayed with my wife for a week, and we only went 2 times by taxi,

to and from the Airport



If you drive from Geneva to France,
05/29/2008 - 21:34

you cannot avoid for sure the customs houses at boundaries, and then you know you are in France!

Geneva is a nice city, but a bit empty on sundays, except if very warm: in this case, people stay or walk along the lake ranks.


Re: If you drive from Geneva to France,
05/29/2008 - 22:11

Geneva is a lovely city, sort of a petit Paris, but your right, Anka. Its "dead" on Sundays.

I'll take Paris!

Last time I was there in April the streets were relatively clean and I even saw someone picking up their dog's shit. Tres agreable! I'll be back in less than 2 weeks.

(I don't think the dogs in Geneva are allowed to shit)... LOL!


OK Patrice and Joseph,
05/29/2008 - 23:53

Sundays are no hits, but where are they,

except, London, Paris, Stockholm(!) or NY,

even though I seen The BIG Apple quite booring on a Sunday



Dead on Sundays
05/30/2008 - 03:01

Hi Patrice,

You are so right.  I was really shocked to find out from Alex that Geneva was the boonies on Sundays.  Coming from Osaka, which is not even as bustling as Tokyo, I was expecting that stores would be open during the weekends for shoppers.  Here, most people work long hours so shopping on a weekday is quite difficult.  That is why most shops and boutiques are open on weekends and instead take a day off on the least busy day of the week. 

When I was in Geneva last month for the HL SIHH event, I was surprised to find Starbucks packed on a Sunday.  I had actually flown-in late Saturday hoping to do some serious shopping on Sunday just before the HL dinner but was forced to spend the time just going around the city and meeting up with some of the Loungers instead...well, things could have been worse (just kidding guys!).

Actually, it was my first taste of Europe and I must say, I liked Switzerland a lot despite the limited time I had to look around.  I also found Zurich to be very scenic.  I hope to visit again with the whole family when my daughter is a little older.

Oh, by the way, in Japan, people usually bring along plastic bags (poop bags) and stuff when they take their dogs for a walk.  I live near a pond around which people usually jog and walk their dogs, and I am greatful that most people do clean up after their dogs.  If not, taking my usual route to the train station would be like walking through a mine field (full of "poopy" traps).

Enjoy the weekend guys!



Re: Dead on Sundays
05/30/2008 - 05:48

Hi Kazumi,

I arrived in Geneva on a Sunday and the town was shut down. The only place I could find open to get lunch was McDonalds!

Toronto used to be like that in the 1950's and 60's. Great if you work there but duuulll if your a tourist.

As far as picking up after your dog...Its the same here in Toronto.

After they passed the law, people started picking up after their dogs (Stoop and Scoop!) and it was a huge improvement. People walking their dogs always carry a few plastic bags and now its very common and people DO understand the importance.

I did get into an argument with my French teacher about this subject (he's from France). He claimed that Parisiens would never do this, but I disagreed. I didn't see that much dog poo and it was usually moved off the sidewalk into a patch of dirt and grass or around a small tree so people wouldn't step in it.

And I did see someone picking it up too.

Here's a photo showing that in some parts of Paris, its the law.

We'll see if any of the Parisiens here chime in with their thoughts.

How did we get from watches to dog poo. It must come under the category of " WATCH" your step"


I noticed you also like to photograph signs and signboards :-) nt
05/30/2008 - 07:11


Hi Joseph, I was in Toronto 1983,
05/30/2008 - 13:19

and that was even worser than Sweden,

and that says alot a that time

On the other hand all you guys who lives in BIG cities,

and not a small one, like I do, are used to othere references

My town is about 1/10 th in inhibitants vs Geneva,

so if you want to talk about dead Sundays,

please wellcome



Les Paquis is the place to go on Sundays. It's the red light
05/30/2008 - 14:42

district but changing fast into a very "trendy" neighborhood: cool bars, ethnic restaurants, shops and in general quite a lot of life.

Now you tell me! :-(
05/30/2008 - 18:40