Vintage movements question

I know I've seen a vintage VC automatic with a free-sprung balance, and since my interest is in hand-wound watches. My question is did they make any hand-wound movements  also with free-sprung balances?

I need to check further but I believe that calibers 1015 and 1052 were
03/08/2008 - 20:47

free sprung.

Correct, they are also free sprung!
03/08/2008 - 22:39

But I don't have any such movements.

On the other hand I have this

The movement is Cal. 1017, manual, ( but not from my watch ).

Also from Les Historiques, named "Jalousie"


Thans's Alex & Doc
03/09/2008 - 00:56

For the info. Stuning watch Doc.

Hi Doc, that movement has an index regulator and therefore is not free
03/09/2008 - 10:53


Alex, correct again!
03/09/2008 - 16:03

Sorry, but I never opened the back of the Jalousie,

too complicated, and I read somehere that it was a free sprung,

found a pic and posted !

Not looking careful enough as I see now


Perhaps this ?
03/08/2008 - 20:48

This is Les Historiques 31045, but vintage?

It's from the 90's......but it's manual.

Always something to begin with

and the movement looks like this.



A version of the 1001/1002 caliber has it...
03/09/2008 - 03:10
It is marked 1001/2 (subseconds) or 1002/2 (center seconds). I don't have a picture to share, but they are out there. Bill
I did not know that
03/09/2008 - 19:34

I have a cal 1002, but not free sprung. I have seen automatics like the 1072 free sprung, but never a vintage manual wind. You learn something new everyday!

Bill, you are right,
03/09/2008 - 20:12

I remeber when we discussed it,

ei8thohms i think was the one who had seen and serviced it !

Keep in touch


I found the words of John!
03/10/2008 - 22:12

I know this watch exists because I had the pleasure of restoring one a year or so ago and I fell absolutely in love with it. The K1002/2 movement is a lovely piece of work with a Gyromax (free-sprung) balance and the overall package was pretty close to horological nirvana for me.


or as he is also known ei8thohms