What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!

Below we have been talking about the PP 5170.
It's always that case when PP names their watches. A number.

Vacheron Constantin has Patrimony, Malte, Les Historiques etc, followed by function.
For instance Patrimony Traditionelle Chronograph, Malte Dual Time, Les Historiques Jalousie etc
The only exception I have is Les Historiques 31045,
which is a beautiful and under estimated watch.
When it comes to Historiques American 1921 and Historiques Toledo 1952,
the figures are obvious, the original's year.
But what stands 31045 for? I always wondered.What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!

What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!

And talking of figures, this Girard-Perregaux 375 mm Chronograph, make sense,
since it's named after a car with that name.
Mm stands for Mille Miglia an ancient Formula one race in the 1950s, in Italy,
and 375 refers to the engine. 
3750 cubic centimeters or 375 cubic inches, but the last seems quite big for a F1What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!
In my eyes it's a modern, from 2003, but still classic chronograph with monopusher in WG.
What makes it special is that it's not made after an old model like Historique American 1921,
it's a genuine new design by Dr Macaluso's hand!
And no other watch looks like it, yes there are 124 other, but no other brand What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!

What I don't like are watches that is named by a number!

Cheers

Doc
"I am not a number, I'm a free watch" :-) to paraphrase the
05/06/2010 - 11:41
Prisonner I don't like ref numbers because I never remember them and I find that putting names on collections gives us a more personnal interaction with them
In total agreement with both of you.
05/06/2010 - 11:52
Hi Doc and Alex, I would never be able to keep all the model numbers straight.  It's actually a pet peeve I have with PP, as it makes the watches so inpersonal - it really becomes just a number, not something with character. BR, Dan
Hi Alex,
05/06/2010 - 12:49
do you know why they named it Les Historiqes 31045? Doc
before the Toledo 1952 (launched in 2003) the Historique models
05/06/2010 - 13:05
didn't have the "original" date of make in the name so the 31045 is just a reference number.
OK, thanks
05/06/2010 - 19:51
I thought so but I never seen the original reference. Cheers Doc
May I offer another, point of view? - Gently of course!
05/06/2010 - 23:15
... Firstly, it can be a little boreish and geeky when people rattle off reference numbers and serial numbers at you.... and it is not great if you are on the receiving end at all - I completely accept and recognise that. But, amongst friends or select groups, the jargon can and definitely does creep in.... I think both names and numbers work for me. Numbers (and also letters or initials) become iconic also, just as much as names do... 911 250GTO DB5 E-Type Lange 1 Type XXI At some point in the conversation, who here has not slipped out a Calibre number in the post, or conversation? We accept numbers unconditionally when we talk Calibres. I am sure that none of us can keep track of the references of more than a handful of brands, but the brands you love, you kinda pick it up - and it becomes the jargon of the genre. Maybe, the brands that use 4 digit or less references (eg PP, Rolex of old) enable the human to remain in touch and to use them. 6 digits, and combinations are far harder to use of course, and our inadequacies as humans drives a different approach? Robots amongst us are of course much more talented than us mortals. I guess BRM, Fortis and De Bethune are bu****ed then!? Just my wandering thoughts... comme d'habitude