What is the ideal number of watches in a collection?

In a way, the easy answer would be to say 100 - or why not a 1,000? The more the better...What is the ideal number of watches in a collection?

But at the same time, I only have 2 watches currently, and I am feeling almost guilty that my Hublot is not getting enough wrist time. I would still like to increase my collection, but since I know I'll keep on wearing my VC EP Perpetual Calendar, the new additions will not be getting a lot of wrist time. That's a little bit of a problem for me, since I like wearing my watches...

It is a very subjective answer, but I would be interested to hear the views of my fellow Loungers...
For me the ideal number of watches is about getting the right balance between having a nice diversity, being able to enjoy each piece enough and not investing too much money into the collection. I'm not sure why, but 6-8 feels like a good range...
I'm putting this indicative list up just for fun - it might have changed a lot by tomorrow...

1- VC 47212
2- Hublot BB Ice
3- Breguet Chrono Marine (WG)
4- VC QdI (simple time/date model)
5- AP Royal Oak
6- Lange (probably Chrono)
7- Roger Smith Series 2
8- Jaeger-LeCoultre Amvox2 DBS

Somehow, I'd like to fit into the list a VC OS in the mix (maybe instead of the AP RO?)... and as a "special" watch, a VC Sputnik would be quite cool. I like the VC Malte Perpetual Retrograde too...What is the ideal number of watches in a collection?What is the ideal number of watches in a collection?
As much as I like the Malte Tonneau Tourbillon, realistically I don't think I'll have many watches around the price tag of the 47212...

Cheers, 

Francois

Rei
08/22/2008 - 14:59
that's an interesting and ecclectic choice! I would say 3 would be
08/22/2008 - 00:21

the ideal number of watches: one for every week day, one more sporty for week end and a last dressy one for going out...but if things were so logical it wouldn't be any fun would it? The ideal number would be one less than the number of watches where you start scaring yourself.... then you know you've gone too far

You have an interesting an diverse choice and I especially like the fact that you included an independent artisan in your top  8

3 really doesn't sound like the ideal number for you Alex
08/22/2008 - 02:51
...not enough room for all the independents AND VC's chronos, Mercators and other alternative time displays... Do you know your limit/ have you ever gone too far? I knew you'd like to see an independent on my list. I remember wll our conversation at SIHH on Roger Smith. I know that there are a few you'd pick ahead of him, but he remains my favorite. I always liked his Serie 2 in photos, but when I saw it in the flesh, I was blown away: the finish on the dial was astounding!!! I'm not going to dispute the fact that his prices aren't cheap (if his prices were 1/3 of what they are, I would have already put in an order!), but he's got such a unique style IMO.  Cheers, Francois
the ideal number is the number which still makes you happy, at one
08/22/2008 - 12:00
point I collected almost only vintage VC's and there was one watch I was hunting for quite some time to make my collection "complete"; believe it or not the day I bought that watch all interest left and instead of being really happy I felt rather sad since probably I had nothing left to look forward to and desire. So basically my perfect number would be no matter what number but as long as you still have desire for a next one...
Luca got it figured out for sure!
08/22/2008 - 01:28
One for every day and night of the week, plus one each: real beater, sports activity and a drop dead formal peice. 17 sounds right, now fill in which ones they should be. Miki
Uff, Luca what a relief...
08/22/2008 - 02:35

17 sounds like a plan to me now I already got to thinking my 8 VCs had gotten me too far. But you cleared my doubts and made my day Thanks so much Miki! Since I am a monobrander and strictly devoted to VC I might run out of models in the VC range  to get a collection of all 17... Should I start looking around to get a few pieces from the competition... A Panerai Luminor Base or Chrono Monopulsante surely could be an option as well as a Grand Lange 1, or maybe a 5712 Patek...  To be honest, I have my sights set on QdI and I do not consider any other purchases before that one... I just love the watch and will get one whether it be a limited HL edition or regular simple time only model. Just to answer Fracois' question, I think there is no right number of watches in a collection (it could as well be just one piece). The question is what strategy/key you take on to build your watch collection. I am very positive every watch collection grows as time goes by. This is a process you can't stop if you are an afficionado. It's like an addiction... a truly wonderful one at that and harmful only to your wallet   

I'm sure you can find 17 VC pieces...
08/22/2008 - 02:58
for your collection.   After you get the Quai de l'Ile, you are already more than halfway there. Actually, to be honest, my feeling is that it is difficult to limit oneself to just a single brand as there are so many terrific watches out there from a range of brands including Lange and Patek.  Making these choices and decisions is almost as much fun as actually acquiring the watch.  Happy hunting! Duncan
Hi Duncan, that's what I am thinking too...
08/22/2008 - 12:46

After QdI it is more downhill than uphill ride for my collection. Although I'm sure my expectations towards certain pieces will be higher as well - along with the higher prices for each watch as a further consequence of collection growth... Anyway, I agree the fun is in diversity but no other brand speaks and appeals to me like VC. Period. I think I haven't grown enough as a collector to seriously consider other brands at the moment. Cheers! 

Re: Uff, Luca what a relief...
08/22/2008 - 03:01
"am very positive every watch collection grows as time goes by. This is a process you can't stop if you are an afficionado. It's like an addiction... a truly wonderful one at that and harmful only to your wallet" If I understood you correctly, then watches are to men what shoes are to women. If that is the case, I'm in deep s**t!! I'm sure your collection will soon include a non-VC, and I'm ready to put £5 on the table that it will be a Panerai... I saw the way you looked at them at SIHH!
you got me there Francois :-)))
08/22/2008 - 12:39
I do like the concept of Panerai but still haven't made up my mind as to which model I should get (I like the titanium Luminor Base version for its simplicity and 300m water resistance). As to your being in "big trouble" there is no stopping there. You will prowl further to expand your collection, that's for certain. Happy hunting
If I had to get one PAM, I would also get the 176
08/22/2008 - 13:00
Beauty in simplicity...
I think I could survive with 17 ;-)
08/22/2008 - 02:55
Not sure about my insurer, though. I think he'd have a heart attack if I told him I have 17 watches! You have no idea through what hoops I jumped through to get my 47212 on my insurance policy
As has been said, there is no "right" number...
08/22/2008 - 03:08
or answer to this question.  Different people and different circumstances will lead to different answers. My opinion is that one can take a moment and consider what are your collecting priorities.  Some will want a diverse collection and some may want to collect according to a specific theme or criteria.  Developing a collecting philosophy will help to keep you focused because it is too darn easy to get distracted.  I know as I have experienced this numerous times... You have some very interesting pieces in your list and they reflect a certain degree of diversity.  In the end, chose the watch that "moves" you.  If it create qa positive emotional response, then it is most liely to stay relevant in your co;l;ection and therefore see regular wrist time. Enjoy the process of looking and choosing as I think that is a critical part of the overall experience of collecting. Cheers, Duncan
Re: As has been said, there is no "right" number...
08/22/2008 - 03:24
I am indeed very much enjoying the process of looking and choosing... In fact, since I've acquired my EP Perpetual Calendar, I am enjoying this process more than ever before. Probably a mix of the fact that a) I am not tortured anymore by the worry and nightmares that I might never have the opportunity to look at my moonphase b) I can now look at other watches and know that in theory I could get them, since I don't have to save up for the 47212 (you know, 5 years can be a VERY long time) c) My watch budget is currently at 0 (and will be for a while), so there are no financial risks involved with me looking around! In a way, I feel like an (American) football player who finally won the Super Bowl, and "got the monkey off his back". I can keep on playing (and still want to win), but with no more pressure and with a Super Bowl ring on my finger... I'm not sure if that makes a lot of sense. It's late, so I'll leave it at that and go to bed. Nighty Nite, Francois
Actually Francois, what you said makes a lot of sense.
08/22/2008 - 03:35
It is nice to reach a comfort level with one's collection.  It may come at different points and times for each individual collector but it is a wonderful feeling to collect strictly for the love of it.  I know that I had some of the same feelings when I bought my first tourbillon.  Enjoy the feeling and the time will come when another piece will come along that truly moves you.  Until then, enjoy your current watches and have fun with the stress-free window shopping. By the way, though I stay in Singapore, I am an American and very familiar with the monkey on the backs of sports teams.  Furthermore, being a New Yorker, I was really happy when the Giants won the Super Bowl in February.  Have a good night.  Dawn has just broken in Singapore! Duncan
I'm happy to hear that you understand the feeling I was trying to
08/22/2008 - 13:29
convey.  While I love the city of New York, I do not like any of its sport teams. So while I'm happy that you're happy the Giants won, I would have preferred that the Pats crush them to little pieces!  I am a Buffalo Bills fan, and still hold a grudge against Hostetler and Anderson for "stealing" the Super Bowl away from Kelly and Thomas. If only Norwood could have kicked it a few inches further to the left. I also do not like Manning. IMO an overrated player, often looking like a deer in headlights (although he did play a really good game in the SB, to be fair). So do you manage to follow the sport in Singapore? In London, coverage is pretty good, and I get to watch one or two games per week
When I first came out to Asia in the mid 1990's,
08/23/2008 - 04:12
it was really tough to follow the US sports scene.  Nowadays, especially with the internet, it is much, much better.  In Singapore, we get 2-3 NFL games per week.  Basically, we get 2+ games per week for the major sports, i.e. Baseball, basketball and football.  (Soory to you NHL fans, but I still have a hard time with hockey. )  Soccer is still probably the most popular and a sure way to cause an uproar is to deny folks their EPL games but other sports are broadening their fanbase in Singapore. Now, can we all say, "wide right!"  Sorry, but I couldn't resist.   Of the Giants Super Bowl victories, my favorite is still Simms' amazing performance against the Broncos. Have you spent time living in the US?  Just curious to know how you chose the Bills to root for. HAGWE! Duncan
Every time I hear "wide right", I have to shed a little tear...
08/23/2008 - 06:44
Looks like you have a good deal over there... although I would need my NHL... I haven't spend time in the US, but American football is my favorite sport (by far), and I have played a few years. I don't have a Super Bowl ring like Miki, but I have an Eastern Canadian Championship ring... my team did get to the final of the CJFL (the Canadian Junior Football League, just before the CFL) but we got trashed big time, similar to the Bills against the Cowboys at the Rose Bowl... I did get offered a scholarship by Purdue, but didn't take it - hey, I guess I wasn't that bad Funny story how I became a fan of the Bills: my uncle was a Giants fan, and he wanted to buy me a Simms shirt for Christmas. By the time he got to the shop, they were all sold out, so instead he decided to buy a Jim Kelly shirt (the colors were almost the same). The first time I saw the Bills play was against the Browns, in the playoffs, and they lost something like 34-30. It was an amazing game and I fell in love with them... So had my uncle been able to find the Simms shirt he was looking for, I would have been a much happier sport fan Have a good weekend, Francois
Very interesting question...
08/22/2008 - 07:59

with no definite answer I think. As long as you can afford it and you see something you want, the more the merrier, perhaps... Right now, I have 7 watches including a PP, a Rolex, and a vintage Breitling.  However, like Francois, I also like to wear them regularly and right now, that isn't happening. One problem is that it has gotten to a point where having to set the time and date every moring has become a bit of a chore since most of my watches have date displays or date complications. Right now I wear my contemporaine manual wind to work almost everyday and wear my other watches during the weekend.  Unfortunately, the "nicer" watches get even less wrist time since most of my weekends are spent doing groceries at Costco and going out with my 2 year old daughter (who likes to "borrow" my watches from my wrist). Like Francois, my watch budget is also "0" so I am confined to just looking around.  Sometimes I am tempted to trade in my more complicated pieces for simpler ones which should be less troublesome to rotate.   One thing about collecting, it is hell if you suddenly get tired of your present "theme" which is what is happening with me and my date complications.... I guess I am just too lazy and slutty to be a true "collector"... Have a nice weekend and take care of your collections, guys! Kazumi

Re: Very interesting question...
08/22/2008 - 08:49
Personally, my ideal number of "wearers" is eight as it's an auspicious number and realistically can be worn on rotation.Also the box where I house them fits nicely in a mini safe.I have arrived at this eclectic set after about a year of fine tuning and I can say that each one brings joy whenever it's on my wrist.The latest addition of course, is the Malte Chrono and that has been sharing wrist time with 3 others this week.No prize for guessing which 3. Cheers, Fernando Here's a quick pic:
that's some heavy duty collection you got there, very varied (nt)
08/22/2008 - 11:57
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08/22/2008 - 12:57
Beautiful collection!!! I really like the mix of watches you have selected, a very well balanced and varied collection IMO.  You have in your collection what are my favorite FPJ and one of my top PPs (the first one). I also like the fact that it is predominantly white metal, with one pimpalicious red gold sport watch Thanks for sharing! Cheers, Veillotron
If I had to settle for "only" eight...
08/22/2008 - 18:23
these would certainly work for me! Best, Miki
I'm with you on setting the date being a pain
08/22/2008 - 13:10

I have to update my Hublot once I week, and it's a bit of a bother (I do enjoy however manually winding my VC every night). If I had to do it every day it would definitely annoy me.  Have a nice weekend too (at Costco)! And it's nice to see that your daugther is already a WIS (like father, like daughter!) Francois

For me François, there is no ideal number!
08/22/2008 - 14:22
It depends on the theme of the collection you decided to follow, but I think, generally speaking, that it's more than 3!!! The most difficult is to define correctly the theme and to try to stick on it... I am still working on it...
although you are still working on it,
08/22/2008 - 15:33
what is your theme? My current thinking is that my theme is more "diversity" rather than a focus on chronos, or VCs. but that might change...
Well, François...
08/22/2008 - 20:14
- mainly vintage wristwatches covering different kind of complications, whatever the manufacture - from this, I select the most representative pieces of the so and so manufacture, with a famous complication, outstanding a period during its history, a special movement like Observatory chronometer (for instance), or some effective rarity... - if I cannot afford one as a vintage, I try to find an alternative through a more recent watch to stick on my theme I have also chronometers as another theme, which also intersect with the previous comments, but extended to pocket watches (I am starting in that way). All this should be thought a bit more, but that's the idea. Of course, sometimes I cannot resist to some beauties... What about VC? They are diversified with some extraordinary pieces through time, and it's the reason why I have more of them than other brands. But we should discuss this matter next time we are meeting François. Hope to see you soon Cheers
Hopefully this will be soon! (nt)
08/23/2008 - 06:45
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I have more than 10 now
08/22/2008 - 14:59
Incld. Seikos & Citizens... but if counting only mechanicals there are 11 (well, 10 actually but the last one is coming...a Grand Seiko). I don't have the time to wear all now but each has been worn during a certain period of time...some have special memories...so do I need another watch? No, but how to throw away the itch? So a perfect one would be 4-5 and some of them may change as time passes by but defineitely few pieces will remain forever...