Who said Antiquorum was dead?

Regardless of all the politics going on within Antiquorum, which the press is having a great time talking about, and which I don’t want to get into, those who though Antiquorum was dead and buried are wrong.

Maybe Antiquorum has not been offering for sale multi million dollar steel Patek perpetual calendars but they sure have a fine number of rare Vacheron Constantin watches for sale at the June 7 Hong Kong auction. Among them are 3 ultra rare watches which to the best of my knowledge have never appeared at auction before:

Lot 52: Malte Chronograph Excellence Platine: part of the 1st set of the Excellence Platine collection launched in 2006 this platinum chronograph which features a platinum dial is n°7 of a total of 75 made.

Estimate: HKD180,000 - 230,000 / $23,000- 30,000 / €14,000 - 18,000

Who said Antiquorum was dead?



Lot 66 : Malte Tonneau Chronograph : I had never seen this version in rose gold with grey guilloché dial. Made in 50 pieces in 2005.

Who said Antiquorum was dead?

Estimate: HKD 100,000 - 130,000 / $13,000 - 17,000 / €8,000 - 10,000

Lot 401 Steel Malte Tourbillon: The crème de la crème and one which I would definitely have bid on had money grown on trees. The drop dead gorgeous Malte tourbillon in steel, black guilloche dial with rose gold indexes and hands. Made in 10 pieces in 2006 for and in celebration of the 100th anniversary of the historical Geneva boutique.

Estimate: HKD 700,000 - 850,000 / $90,000 - 110,000 / €56,000 - 70,000

Who said Antiquorum was dead?

Low estimates?? nt
05/29/2008 - 13:24

vc

Any one of those would make me a happy man! Do you have more scans of
05/29/2008 - 17:12

the Malte tourbillon in steel?

The new Antiquorum has declined !
05/29/2008 - 17:29

Since the new management arrived, I don't get the catalogues, as I have for years,

because I bought a lot from them.

I written to them and asked.

I have got no reply.

The pages on the net, are a lot more secret than before, you can't for instance see old auction results....

I can not open the pics, enlarge them.

So put together,

I have spent lot of money at Antiquorum, more than on any other auctionhouse.

I don't get the catalogues any longer.

I written to them and they don't even answer Doc.

I know a lot of persons, some very close, who has quit or got fired from the new company,

whom I discussed this with.

Say whatever you want about Mr Patrizzi, he is a man that burns for watches,

of course he made money, so what?

He started it all.

I'm not a customer at Antiquorum any longer.

Had to say it,

since they don't even can make the effort of answering me.

Doc

with all due respect Doc, Christie's and Sotyeby's don't even
05/29/2008 - 20:30

have the possibility to look up past auctions. Their web site is definately not user friendly either.

This is not correct, Chronometer!
05/29/2008 - 21:42

For sure for Christies, they have reshaped their website and now, you can find results from past auctions on an easy way, with photographs and descriptions. Just try it.

You've got the feeling that they replace Antiquorum as follow up and information!

For Sothebys, I did not try yet. To be checked!

Cheers

I am with you Doc....
05/30/2008 - 04:02

I also no longer receive their catalogues.  Of course, my view is that if they cannot be bothered to send me a catalogue, then I cannot be bothered to consider buying or selling with them.

IMHO, Christie's has stepped up their game and does a much better job.

it will be interesting to see how the new Patrizzi & Co. auction house does.  My primary concerns are their new business model and also all of the pending litigation swirling around Antiquorum and Osvaldo.  Until some of the lawsuits are settled, I am very reluctant to consider Antiquorum or Patrizzi & Co., even when it comes to special pieces like the Malte Steel Tourbillon...

Duncan

Thank's Duncan,
05/30/2008 - 12:04

Sotheby's also has "sold lot archive",

where you can get back to 1998

Cheers

Doc

They quit sending me catalogues too.
06/01/2008 - 06:47

I also wish they had kept their past sale information available on their website. Without that information I will generally be much more timid in bidding; also, without a good reason to look at the website, I find myself much less motivated to participate in their auctions at all. I don't know why they decided to conceal it: was it because they had too many unsold items? Too many estimates that turned out to be inaccurate? In any case, cutting customer service while raising fees can raise profitability in the short run, but in the long run it provides an opening to the competition. With Mr. Patrizzi getting ready to launch his operation, the long run may be coming on quite quickly.

here's a scan of the steel tourbillon
05/29/2008 - 18:51

Thanks Alex! It's a real beauty... (nt)
05/30/2008 - 02:35

:)

Thanks Alex. I really like the Malte Chrono EP (nt)
05/30/2008 - 03:04

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