Would you like to own this Jubilee model?!?!

If you're looking for a perfect watch from the oldest manufacture in the world, look no further. You've come to the right place (fleaBay) and found your baby.

How about this fine VC 250th anniversary Jubilee model (perpetual moonphase) which was granted to me by some no name acquintance? Bid with confidence!

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Would you like to own this Jubilee model?!?!

Look at the Geneva Hallmark on the dial. This time around counterfeiters have outdone themselves. Isn't it ironic and sad at the same time???
Just what my collection is missing... Not!!! :-) (nt)
10/21/2008 - 15:35
VC
hmmmm... surprisingly, I like it
10/21/2008 - 16:23

to state the obvious, this doesn't look anything like a VC Jubilee, and I do not support fake watches. But I have to admit that I like the look of the dial, and done by VC this could have made a really interesting model. My 2c... Francois

Re: Would you like to own this Jubilee model?!?!
10/21/2008 - 19:37
I agree with Francois, Its not a bad lay-out. The quality of this fake certainly looks better than most I've seen. Its a bit like the early days of computer hardware and software manuals when we in North America could always depend on a good laugh at the attempts by the Japanese and later the Chinese to translate the manuals into English. But you know what, over time it got a lot better. I think we're seeing the same sort of thing here. The fakes are getting better and better. I've spoken to people who have visited these "fake watch" factories in China. Its scary, especially for those who are novices or know nothig about watches and especially what the various models look like. I think that's at least part of the reason for going to watch designs like Les Masques and QdI. Just my 2 cents worth. We do indeed live in interesting times! Joseph
I'll take it...
10/21/2008 - 22:34
As long as it's NC and they pay the shipping. Best, Miki
Scary
10/22/2008 - 12:17
I find all this fake luxury watch business quite scary to be honnest. Who can you really trust except the official retailers then? Some websites even openly advertise and do business selling Vacheron Constantin replicas. Is this authorized by VC? Are they even asked for some kind of authorization? Is it OK because it is publically stated that these are replicas?
As they often say, "buy the seller"
10/23/2008 - 12:29

I would say that if you want to be 100% sure that you are buying the real deal, then the AD is your best place to go.  If you buy from them, I would encourage you to negotiate the price, as they will usually be flexible... Indeed the MSRP implies quite a large premium. Bottom line, if you go through an AD, you'll get the service and the peace of mind, but you'll pay a premium for it.  You can also buy from individuals - in this case, as many have told me before, "buy the seller". I would gladly buy from Alex, Radek, Kazumi, and from most Loungers (not you, Duncan, as I still am expecting to become your adopted son and inherit your collection), but I would be a little bit more wary of buying from someone I have never met. Not to say I have not done it - I have bought and sold watches with individuals I didn't know, and my experiences were quite pleasant one - in fact I am still in contact with the people I dealt with, which is great! But you need to make sure you do your due diligence and use your common sense... The thirs option is to buy from grey dealers - there are many dealers that are not authorised dealers that are respectable businesses, and they will only sell authentic VCs (or other brands). As I understand it, they buy on the cheap stocks from ADs, and try to resell each watch with a small profit. Their business model is based on selling many watches at a small premium, which is quite different from the usual AD. If you can find one that you can trust (again, "buy the seller"), you can get pretty good deals. I will let others comment on vintage VC dealers, something I am less familiar with. I hope this helps - if you need further info, please send me an email. Cheers,  Francois

Unfortunately, if the seller clearly states...
10/23/2008 - 16:53
that he or she is selling replica watches, then there is not much that can be done.  They are obviously not authorized nor sanctioned by VC but they are also not committing fraud or false advertising and therefore their actions are probably not technically illegal. The real danger are those who sell watches purported to be authentic when they are in fact, fakes. As Francois has said, "buy the seller" and caveat emptor. Cheers, Duncan